The Future Past Tour 2024


I don´t know if this has been discussed before, but the tempo here is absolutely brutal and Nicko is speeding up the whole song.
In the solo section, you can see Dave making a moderate mistake, but Adrian absolutely butchers the solo and cannot phrase the notes because of the ferocious tempo. In the last verse, Bruce can barely keep up, cos Nicko is too damn fast and at around 7:53 Adrian stops playing and gets very upset and gestures at Nicko very angrily. I love Nicko so damn much, but he is really just degrading the performances now. :(:(:(
 
OutwardFeller said:

I don´t know if this has been discussed before, but the tempo here is absolutely brutal and Nicko is speeding up the whole song.
In the solo section, you can see Dave making a moderate mistake, but Adrian absolutely butchers the solo and cannot phrase the notes because of the ferocious tempo. In the last verse, Bruce can barely keep up, cos Nicko is too damn fast and at around 7:53 Adrian stops playing and gets very upset and gestures at Nicko very angrily. I love Nicko so damn much, but he is really just degrading the performances now. :(:(:(
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Don’t blame Nicko just because Adrian can’t play his guitar ;)

In all seriousness though I really dig the fast tempos, Maiden really needs more of that imo. Perhaps these are the first signs of the guitarists’ ages showing though. Maybe the finger dexterity is degrading ever so slightly.
 
I love Nicko but can I nevertheless admit that I would want to see a Maiden live show with a different drummer? (For me, preferably not someone generic as the nephew but someone who has achieved already more in their career).
Line-up changes happen all the time in Metal and the bands stay popular, successful or even improve. Who knows, maybe after giving something new a chance, it would even stimulate Steve's creativity to work with a new drummer?
 
TaaviMaiden said:
I love Nicko but can I nevertheless admit that I would want to see a Maiden live show with a different drummer? (For me, preferably not someone generic as the nephew but someone who has achieved already more in their career).
Line-up changes happen all the time in Metal and the bands stay popular, successful or even improve. Who knows, maybe after giving something new a chance, it would even stimulate Steve's creativity to work with a new drummer?
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#Replacethe3Amigos

Maybe someone will start a thread about that!
 
TaaviMaiden said:
I love Nicko but can I nevertheless admit that I would want to see a Maiden live show with a different drummer? (For me, preferably not someone generic as the nephew but someone who has achieved already more in their career).
Line-up changes happen all the time in Metal and the bands stay popular, successful or even improve. Who knows, maybe after giving something new a chance, it would even stimulate Steve's creativity to work with a new drummer?
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I get it. You want a star or someone well known behind the kit. I say who cares? It's not like they would have a drum solo or anything. Joe knows all the songs and can play them very well (just as good or better than anyone else they could bring in). Plus I feel he would mesh well with Steve just fine. That's what matters the most.
 
OutwardFeller said:

I don´t know if this has been discussed before, but the tempo here is absolutely brutal and Nicko is speeding up the whole song.
In the solo section, you can see Dave making a moderate mistake, but Adrian absolutely butchers the solo and cannot phrase the notes because of the ferocious tempo. In the last verse, Bruce can barely keep up, cos Nicko is too damn fast and at around 7:53 Adrian stops playing and gets very upset and gestures at Nicko very angrily. I love Nicko so damn much, but he is really just degrading the performances now. :(:(:(
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Nicko seems to be speeding up during fills and that's why Adrian spends so much time there.

At times it seems like every fill he does, he falls out of tempo a bit, which results in speeding up. He becomes a runaway train. And even Bruce is struggling to keep up after the solos. The tempos during some stretches of the tour were just stupid for their age.
 
riff said:
Did I imagine this or were constantly elevated tempos one of the reasons Adrian left in 1990?
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Yes. But those were on purpose.

These days, they aren't. Nicko is getting braver with little fills during songs. Too brave in my opinion. Every time he mistimes one, the song speeds up and that results in a break-neck tempo of the song (like the video).

Nicko should be braver with fills, which is commandable, but not to the point when he drives CSIT from 160-ish BPM to 180-ish BPM at the end (yes I used a Google metronome and that's the difference). Nicko sped up 20 BPM in that video. That's just a recipe for disaster.
 
TaaviMaiden said:
I love Nicko but can I nevertheless admit that I would want to see a Maiden live show with a different drummer? (For me, preferably not someone generic as the nephew but someone who has achieved already more in their career).
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On the bright side, they took a 7:26 song and got it done in 2:21. :lol: Maybe Nick's got somewhere to be?

I get what you're saying, though. I could live with a different drummer if Nicko ever decides to step down, and I certainly would want someone who brought some personality to their work. Best example I can cite is when Jukka quit drumming for Nightwish. They brought in a fantastic drummer in Kai, but Jukka had such personality to his style and sound that Kai sounds technically great to my ears, but flat...doing the job. I'm not a musician, so I can't explain it better than that.

That said, I'm also happy if Nicko hangs until the end. I can live with some ultra-tempoed songs in the set if he still wants to keep playing with the band. Since he's worked hard to get his chops back since the stroke, it's obviously important to him that he does.
 
breeg said:
Come on man, AC DC replaced one of the brothers. The fans are most important. The love to Nicko is independant.
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They replaced everyone but Angus eventually. Yeah yeah, I know Brian is back in the band now but Cliff isn't (not touring anyway), and Phil Rudd has his legal troubles so he's not in the band anymore
 
matic22 said:
Yes. But those were on purpose.

These days, they aren't. Nicko is getting braver with little fills during songs. Too brave in my opinion. Every time he mistimes one, the song speeds up and that results in a break-neck tempo of the song (like the video).

Nicko should be braver with fills, which is commandable, but not to the point when he drives CSIT from 160-ish BPM to 180-ish BPM at the end (yes I used a Google metronome and that's the difference). Nicko sped up 20 BPM in that video. That's just a recipe for disaster.
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Sometimes being 'too brave' is an only way to progress. So maybe this is what he want to do. Who knows.
 
Spaldy said:
That Brooklyn crowd seem much livelier than we've seen elsewhere on the USA tour. Gotta love New York.
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The overall vibe at the Barclays Center was electric last Saturday, but some sections were more amped than others. From my vantage point, people only got up and moved around in my row was during the hits like Fear of the Dark and the Trooper where as I was throwing it down haaaarrrrd during Stranger in a Strange Land, the Time Machine, and Hell on Earth, but that's par for the coarse, because, hey, that’s what you do when you know more than the Trooper and we all know Maiden are defiant in what they do in terms of set-list. The Hu was fundamentally one of the freshest openers Maiden has had in a while.

After one of metal's defining bands ignited the Barclays Center, it wasn't like exiting your standard metal show. You know those concerts where the beer drinkers go to pay off their hefty bar tabs or head to the merch stand or rasp to each other - damn, that was fucking great! Everyone looked at their fellow concertgoers with gleeful looks of amazement. In a rare instance, I've seen the crowd dazed after a show. And not from singing. Simply because of the sheer sorcery that was Iron Maiden. Everything throughout the show was a holy fuck, holy fuck, holy fuck, holy FUCK! I cannot believe this is happening moment for me and many others in the best way possible, from the waiting period for the concert to the charged atmosphere at the venue to witnessing two stellar bands. The Barclays Center got it right for once in terms of acoustics, and the gig was totally worth the one year wait.

I can also proclaim with %100 certainty that NY / NJ was gifted one of the best designed event tees during this leg of the tour: https://tshirtslayer.com/tshirt-or-longsleeve/iron-maiden-new-york-event-shirt-2024
 
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