The Future Past tour 2023

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GhostofCain said:
Powerslave might be uneven, but it features four of the best songs Maiden have ever recorded and epitomises the classic 80s Maiden sound, the stuff that made them legendary.

Senjutsu on the other hand…
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Oh boy, I couldn't disagree more, especially the Powerslave take lol

Senjutsu might not be perfect, but it's a very consistent album. It's easily one of the strongest of the reunion era and would still make my top 10 if I'm looking at the whole catalogue.
 
Vaenyr said:
Oh boy, I couldn't disagree more, especially the Powerslave take lol

Senjutsu might not be perfect, but it's a very consistent album. It's easily one of the strongest of the reunion era and would still make my top 10 if I'm looking at the whole catalogue.
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I guess we’ll have to agree to disagree. I think Senjutsu is a snoozefest and Powerslave is on my top 5 of Maiden albums. :D
 
GhostofCain said:
Powerslave might be uneven, but it features four of the best songs Maiden have ever recorded and epitomises the classic 80s Maiden sound, the stuff that made them legendary.

Senjutsu on the other hand…
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Powerslave definitely is one of their major best. Even those 'weaker' songs are elevated by great production and band's youthfulness and their great playing, imo. Album just flows so nicely. Monster album!
To me, it's their finest moment.
Other best albums are: Piece of Mind, 7th Son, The Number of the Beast, The Book of Souls.
 
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GhostofCain said:
Fat chance if you compare it, just to give one example, to the original LOTB tour setlist.
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Let's wait until we know the setlist, but in any case I think there is potential to make it a great setlist. Looking back at for instance the 2011 setlist, I always thought that was too much on the safe side.
 
Azas said:
Powerslave is definitely one of their major best. Even those 'weaker' songs are elevated by great production and band's youthfulness and their great playing, imo. Album just flows so nicely. Monster album!
To me, it's their finest moment.
Other best albums are: Piece of Mind, 7th Son, The Number of the Beast, The Book of Souls.
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If you swap The Book of Souls with A Matter of Life and Death you end up with my Maiden top 5.
 
GhostofCain said:
Not a fucking chance! 5 songs off the weakest album by the classic line-up and 5 songs off the weakest post-reunion album? You’ve got to be kidding.
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First off you're wrong, second off even if Maiden did do a setlist composed of just 5 songs from the worst classic album (Killers) and 5 songs from the worst reunion album (The Final Frontier), it would still be a cool setlist. Like even if you're not a big SiT or Senjutsu fan, you're getting never-before-played songs, plus tracks off an album that hasn't gotten a lot of time in the spotlight since forty years ago. That right there is going to make it a cool setlist. One of the best? We'll see after the tour commences.
 
Diesel 11 said:
First off you're wrong, second off even if Maiden did do a setlist composed of just 5 songs from the worst classic album (Killers) and 5 songs from the worst reunion album (The Final Frontier), it would still be a cool setlist. Like even if you're not a big SiT or Senjutsu fan, you're getting never-before-played songs, plus tracks off an album that hasn't gotten a lot of time in the spotlight since forty years ago. That right there is going to make it a cool setlist. One of the best? We'll see after the tour commences.
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I am not denying it would be a cool setlist (I will probably get to see 8 songs I have never seen live before in addition to Heaven Can Wait and Wasted Years), but that is not the benchmark I would necessarily use to describe the best Iron Maiden setlist ever.

By the way, Killers was not recorded by the classic line-up. :P
 
Thank you, Wolf Hoffmann! I'm not the only wacko for whom down tuned live songs often sound odd.

From his interview with Colombia's El Expreso Del Rock:
”…But to me, it sounds different, because a key is a key, and as soon as you drop the key, it changes the mood of the song. But there are so many bands out there that drop the keys — they tune the guitars to E flat or D or C sharp. It gets lower and lower and lower, and it loses some of the original dynamic. But we are one of the very few bands that still do it in the original key, and I'm very proud of that, because our singer, Mark Tornillo, is incredible…"
 
Please, let's not start the downtuning argument again...

I'll say one thing: Changing key changes the feel of the song. Sure. That's something Maiden has already done before with the live version of Lord Of The Flies, where they played the song a whole step lower so that Bruce can hit the higher octave in the chorus.
Furthermore, having three guitarists play songs written for two guitars also changes the feel, wouldn't you say so? For example the live versions of The Trooper since 2003 featuring a third guitar harmony after the first "chorus" of the song.
Or Bruce singing songs from Paul's or Blaze's records feels quite different to the originals, right? Or hell, modern Bruce sounds obviously noticeably different to his decades-younger self, that changes the feel as well, correct? Same thing with Nicko playing songs from the first three albums his way, Janick playing Adrian's solos in his style, etc.

Long story short: There are various reasons for and against downtuning, but preserving the "feel of the original" is a misguided argument that falls apart quite quickly. At this point this topic is like one of the Hits tours; it comes around every few months lol
 
Vaenyr said:
Please, let's not start the downtuning argument again...

I'll say one thing: Changing key changes the feel of the song. Sure. That's something Maiden has already done before with the live version of Lord Of The Flies, where they played the song a whole step lower so that Bruce can hit the higher octave in the chorus.
Furthermore, having three guitarists play songs written for two guitars also changes the feel, wouldn't you say so? For example the live versions of The Trooper since 2003 featuring a third guitar harmony after the first "chorus" of the song.
Or Bruce singing songs from Paul's or Blaze's records feels quite different to the originals, right? Or hell, modern Bruce sounds obviously noticeably different to his decades-younger self, that changes the feel as well, correct? Same thing with Nicko playing songs from the first three albums his way, Janick playing Adrian's solos in his style, etc.

Long story short: There are various reasons for and against downtuning, but preserving the "feel of the original" is a misguided argument that falls apart quite quickly. At this point this topic is like one of the Hits tours; it comes around every few months lol
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I would also say that having Mark Tornillo singing instead of Udo also changes the feel of the songs. I’d even say it is unAcceptable.
 
I'm a fan of Senjutsu and Somewhere in Time to me is the most consistent Maiden album, but the first two years of LotB had a perfect setlist.

To me, unique setlists are just as fun to witness as a set of my absolute favorites. If I had a set of 5-and-5 from the albums I think are the weakest of the 80s and of the reunion era (TNOTB, DoD), I'd be happy. Well, considering three of those from TNOTB usually make it in the set anyways and I've seen Children of the Damned live, maybe not? :D
 
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