Sixth Powerslave Song Played Live?

It's pretty sad tbh, I'm all about preservation so I wish we'll get more stuff eventually. BTW @Luisma do you happen to have the original mtv airing of behind the iron curtain? It used to be easily found online but I can't find it anymore. I'm asking cause the audio seems to be from Hammersmith.
 
Samantas5855 said:
It's pretty sad tbh, I'm all about preservation so I wish we'll get more stuff eventually. BTW @Luisma do you happen to have the original mtv airing of behind the iron curtain? It used to be easily found online but I can't find it anymore. I'm asking cause the audio seems to be from Hammersmith.
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Wasn´t the original MTV airing what we got with the LIve After Death DVD but with the audio fixed? I do have the original short documentary in my digital files and I do seem to remember that I have the MTV one long before it was re-release, however, the latter I have no idea where is actually saved amongst my huge pile of old laptops, hard drives, pendrives, cds, etc... Interesting what you say about Hammersmith! What song you think is from Hammersmith?!
 
Luisma said:
Wasn´t the original MTV airing what we got with the LIve After Death DVD but with the audio fixed? I do have the original short documentary in my digital files and I do seem to remember that I have the MTV one long before it was re-release, however, the latter I have no idea where is actually saved amongst my huge pile of old laptops, hard drives, pendrives, cds, etc... Interesting what you say about Hammersmith! What song you think is from Hammersmith?!
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Here let me show you, I posted it some pages before too.
One of the songs from the expanded MTV broadcast was The Trooper
Here's that song from the Live After Death DVD (5:15)
Notice how Bruce says Thank You, The Trooper
Here's the MTV version now
Here he says "Yeah, Alright Everybody, Yeah"
Now here's the Hammersmith 1984 bootleg
 
Samantas5855 said:
Here let me show you, I posted it some pages before too.
One of the songs from the expanded MTV broadcast was The Trooper
Here's that song from the Live After Death DVD (5:15)
Notice how Bruce says Thank You, The Trooper
Here's the MTV version now
Here he says "Yeah, Alright Everybody, Yeah"
Now here's the Hammersmith 1984 bootleg
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Ok, so far the "NEW" MTV's version is definitely the Hammersmith version. But what about the one in LAD?
 
Samantas5855 said:
Here let me show you, I posted it some pages before too.
One of the songs from the expanded MTV broadcast was The Trooper
Here's that song from the Live After Death DVD (5:15)
Notice how Bruce says Thank You, The Trooper
Here's the MTV version now
Here he says "Yeah, Alright Everybody, Yeah"
Now here's the Hammersmith 1984 bootleg
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FUUUCKK Now I will have to look for the original MTV version!
 
Luisma said:
Ok, so far the "NEW" MTV's version is definitely the Hammersmith version. But what about the one in LAD?
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It's supposed to be from Poznan or Lodz I think (Video says Lodz, Wikipedia says Poznan). Poznan bootleg is publicly available so I can check later.
Edit:It isn't Poznan, Wikipedia is wrong or there are more than 2 versions out there.
 
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Samantas5855 said:
It's supposed to be from Poznan or Lodz I think (Video says Lodz, Wikipedia says Poznan). Poznan bootleg is publicly available so I can check later.
Edit:It isn't Poznan, Wikipedia is wrong or there are more than 2 versions out there.
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I do think I have the bootleg from Poznan. Will check tomorrow. I remember I went into a lot of trouble to identify which gig was what
 
Luisma said:
If we ever meet in person, I will let you hear some stuff I have... That's how I found out about a lot of things in the past, before gaining enough trust from people to actually have the stuff, and that's what I can do for others.
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Thanks mate, I appreciate it. It's a small planet after all...
 
Samantas5855 said:
Here let me show you, I posted it some pages before too.
One of the songs from the expanded MTV broadcast was The Trooper
Here's that song from the Live After Death DVD (5:15)
Notice how Bruce says Thank You, The Trooper
Here's the MTV version now
Here he says "Yeah, Alright Everybody, Yeah"
Now here's the Hammersmith 1984 bootleg
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Ok, here's the thing. The version of The Trooper in the original MTV Broadcast (which I do hope to find in my digital files) definitely can't have the Hammersmith version stuck on it because when the Behind The Iron Curtain was first broadcasted on MTV, the Hammersmith show hadn't being played
 
Luisma said:
Ok, here's the thing. The version of The Trooper in the original MTV Broadcast (which I do hope to find in my digital files) definitely can't have the Hammersmith version stuck on it because when the Behind The Iron Curtain was first broadcasted on MTV, the Hammersmith show hadn't being played
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Could be a rebroadcast
 
I just want to toss in one other deliberation. The gig in Warsaw took place on 9th August 1984. Powerslave was released on 3rd September. Nobody in the audience could have known Back in the Village, and they might have just memorised it as "a new song being played", if at all.
 
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Perun said:
I just want to toss in one other deliberation. The gig in Warsaw took place on 9th August 1984. Powerslave was released on 3rd September. Nobody in the audience could have known Back in the Village, and they might have just memorised it as "a new song being played", if at all.
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That could very well happen. However, having been to one or other concert where a band plays a new song. When you buy the album and listen to the song you usually say, "ah, I remember hearing that one on the concert I went to". I mean, wouldn't that happen to you?
 
Samantas5855 said:
@Luisma Any updates on the search?
The bootleg we need is this one:

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No luck so far Samantha! Since I moved to Spain a month ago, there are lot of things still in the suitcases and boxes... Damn and I remember that back in the day the MTV version was downlodable in some sites!
 
Luisma said:
That could very well happen. However, having been to one or other concert where a band plays a new song. When you buy the album and listen to the song you usually say, "ah, I remember hearing that one on the concert I went to". I mean, wouldn't that happen to you?
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I'm not really picking sides here, but if the song in question was BITV, I definitely wouldn't. I surely didn't remember it at all after several listens of the album, let alone hearing it once in the middle of a concert. Honestly, that middle part of the album between the first two and the last two tracks felt rather gray at first and my appreciation for the songs grew rather slowly.
Same goes for the name - I'm 100% sure I wouldn't recall the name of a new song even right after it was played, let alone anytime later.

Now as for the merit of the discussion, I'm not really convinced either way. The facts seem to be:
- there is an allegiation that a song off the new album was played live once or twice and dropped (which has a precedent)
- the particular show(s) do(es)n't have any publicly known bootlegs
- in a careful research, Luisma came across several people who don't remember the song being played, including a member of the band
- this whole thing happened 40 years ago and it was definitely a song of a as-of-then unreleased album (and behind the Iron Curtain to boot, where coming across albums wasn't easy in general - I've been told the stories from my father, stepfather and others)
- a snippet of an alleged bootleg has been discovered, with somebody sounding uncannily like cca '84 Bruce seems to be announcing the song in a rather weird way of pronunciation - though honestly, I don't understand a single word he says there, wouldn't even recognise the name of the song if I didn't know it beforehand.

I didn't come to a conclusion, really, I trust the memories of those people much as I would trust mine, so not at all, really, and the bootleg snippet is short and weird, so I would like to hear more before accepting it as real.

I am somewhat baffled as to why people care so much, because with Loneliness the song in question was at least a good one. :ninja:
 
Luisma said:
That could very well happen. However, having been to one or other concert where a band plays a new song. When you buy the album and listen to the song you usually say, "ah, I remember hearing that one on the concert I went to". I mean, wouldn't that happen to you?
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Was Powerslave even on sale in Poland that year?
 
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