GhostofCain
Ancient Mariner
For a moment I thought you were going to praise the rise to prominence of Golden Dawn. Thankfully, I was wrong.
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For a moment I thought you were going to praise the rise to prominence of Golden Dawn. Thankfully, I was wrong.
Spaldy
Ancient Mariner
Nah, you're thinking of Goldie Hawn.
____no5
Free Man
Sure. Though it’s nonsense to compare anyone contemporary to Hitler. Netanyahu comes close, ref. dehumanization & genocide but nobody does compare him and I wouldn’t do that so easily either.
Because you don’t pay much attention maybe. I would be most happy to see radical left on the power anywhere and since this almost never happens I’m equally happy to see unconventional or even populist people of the right on the helm. Like Trump. I like change.
Because words have lost their meaning. As mentioned before, we call too easily something as far left, when it’s just left, or far right when it’s just right. Far= resort to violence inside the doctrine.
Oh and we label too easily. Anything different from the main narrative it must be far-something, or Chinese propaganda or Putin puppet. Too dangerous and blindsided. Propaganda-style tactics we’ve fallen in.
As a result when we have categorized Trump or Meloni or Orban etc., as far right and fascists, it’s easy to confuse with Golden Dawn who were really far right.
Golden Dawn were real Nazis & fascists unlike almost all others that I’ve seen using the term against, around here.
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Trump Floats Plan to ‘Clean Out’ Gaza
“President Donald Trump indicated Saturday that he had spoken with the king of Jordan about a potential plan to construct housing and move more than 1 million Palestinians from the Gaza Strip to other countries,
politicalwire.com
So everyone who voted Trump to end the slow drip genocide of Gaza is gonna get what they wanted, I guess. It won't be a slow drip anymore if Trump gets his way.
Also everyone who didn’t vote because “Biden wasn’t doing enough.”Trump Floats Plan to ‘Clean Out’ Gaza
“President Donald Trump indicated Saturday that he had spoken with the king of Jordan about a potential plan to construct housing and move more than 1 million Palestinians from the Gaza Strip to other countries,
So everyone who voted Trump to end the slow drip genocide of Gaza is gonna get what they wanted, I guess. It won't be a slow drip anymore if Trump gets his way.
Vaenyr
Ancient Mariner
Fair enough. So it's not about the "agenda" I am pushing. It's not about the content of my posts, it's about how I present them.
"You keep talking of tolerance but I fail to see much of it in your posts" - I've addressed this before: Paradox of tolerance.
You can look at the discussions I've been involved in that turned sour; the ones where I'm preaching. I'm sure I'm at fault for the unpleasant levels of tension to a degree. But do you genuinely believe that I'm to blame for that, solely? That no other party in the discussion bears any responsibility?
I have no pride about the way I conduct myself. I have read the rules and you'll notice that the frictions arise with a specific and short list of members, often due to certain patterns of behavior. Mind you, I'm not shifting the blame unto them; I'm at fault. I'm aware. I lash out when my buttons are pushed, and believe it or not, I've been trying to be better about that. Also, I'm not trying to further any cause here, I'm just a dude on the internet sharing his opinions. I don't know about you, but I don't believe many people would fundamentally change their views based on some forum posts in a politics thread on an enthusiast board for a metal band.
If it's just about putting me in my place, so to speak, fine. But how does that connect to your ealier question about how long a far right person would make it in the forum?
Nevertheless, I appreciate the response.
GhostofCain
Ancient Mariner
Are you really happy to have a bunch of xenophobes who are, if not far right, as close as it gets to it at the helm of different governments??? Because you like change???
I am sorry, but that draws a line at what is acceptable to me. End of the discussion. My time is too valuable to waste it going round in circles in this discussion as it is obvious I will never agree with you on that.
____no5
Free Man
I lived abroad half of my life and been on working visa for the 1/3 of it. Thus you can be sure I'm not xenophobe. But neither are they, for the most part.
Often those labelled by Status Quo as "xenophobes" are just in for controlled immigration. Uncontrolled immigration is a classic trick to bring cheap labor, depress the wages and keep the working class down and under control.
Just an example.
Anyway, I end it here.
Often those labelled by Status Quo as "xenophobes" are just in for controlled immigration. Uncontrolled immigration is a classic trick to bring cheap labor, depress the wages and keep the working class down and under control.
Just an example.
Anyway, I end it here.
Magnus
Pica Serdica
That was not my question. My question was how long a far right person behaving the way you do would make it in the forum.
Vaenyr
Ancient Mariner
Why does it matter if that hypothetical person is far right? You've outlined issues with the way I express my views, not with the content. Change the content and keep the behavior the same, do you think the far right person would be banned because of their stance? Or rather, do you think I'm being treated in a far too charitable way by the admins, possibly influenced by being "on the same side", so to speak?
In other words, where does being far left or far right come into the equation?
Detective Beauregard
Leviathan of Doggerland
I haven’t forgotten about this; just been very busy. Plan to watch it soon.
GhostofCain
Ancient Mariner
And the far-right-convicted-felon-orange-man-baby has turned a briefing after a plane crash into a baseless rant against DEI (diversity, equity and inclusion). 
MrKnickerbocker
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January 20: FAA director fired
January 21: Air Traffic Controller hiring freeze
January 22: Aviation Safety Advisory Committee disbanded
January 28: Buyout/retirement demand sent to existing employees
January 29: First American mid-air collision in 16 years
And then has the audacity to blame DEI while families are mourning.
I hate this man with every bone in my body.
January 21: Air Traffic Controller hiring freeze
January 22: Aviation Safety Advisory Committee disbanded
January 28: Buyout/retirement demand sent to existing employees
January 29: First American mid-air collision in 16 years
And then has the audacity to blame DEI while families are mourning.
I hate this man with every bone in my body.
Vaenyr
Ancient Mariner
But you see, this will bring down the prices of eggs. The economy was his priority after all, wasn't it? /sAnd the far-right-convicted-felon-orange-man-baby has turned a briefing after a plane crash into a baseless rant against DEI (diversity, equity and inclusion).
MrKnickerbocker
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Not to mention how much cheaper coffee and electronics are going to be once he starts swinging his tiny tariff peepee around...
Don't worry, he'll just tariff physics until it agrees to not allow any airline crashes anymore.
In all seriousness, this showcases why cutting government is not really a good idea - American air traffic controllers are overworked and understaffed because they are federal employees, which means their numbers haven't gone up in 40 years even though there are way more planes in the sky. There was a staffing issue at the airport the night previous and well...this is what happens.
DEI encourages people to hire more broadly, increasing the pool of hires available. It is a solution to staffing issues, not a cause. But hey, Trump probably doesn't even know what the E stands for.
In all seriousness, this showcases why cutting government is not really a good idea - American air traffic controllers are overworked and understaffed because they are federal employees, which means their numbers haven't gone up in 40 years even though there are way more planes in the sky. There was a staffing issue at the airport the night previous and well...this is what happens.
DEI encourages people to hire more broadly, increasing the pool of hires available. It is a solution to staffing issues, not a cause. But hey, Trump probably doesn't even know what the E stands for.