But it wouldn’t if those found guilty of murder were executed no more than one year after being found guilty.
Reality is different. In real life the death sentence is more expensive. Period.
One thing done right, thousands done wrong. I hope the crooked old ass enjoys his remaining years lounging around on the beautiful beaches of Delaware.
We aren't talking about the thousand wrongs. We are talking about a very specific topic you brought up to criticize Biden, despite him doing the "right" thing for the cause you seem to care about (namely lowering the spending of taxpayer money).
In some cases perhaps, but with advances in forensic technology this is almost impossible in today’s age.
Once again a hilariously and objectively wrong statement. Not only is it not "impossible", it happens quite frequently. Life is not a CSI show. Forensics are a messy and difficult field. And that's before we start talking about corruption and framing specific people.
I disagree. Someone who kills innocent people in cold blood should not have the chance to be rehabilitated; they offered their victims no choice and therefore they should be allowed no choice. Removing these killers from the world ensures that they can never reoffend, while imprisoning them could lead to the murder of other prisoners or, in rare cases, even escape.
Funnily enough in Germany it is not against the law to try to escape from prison. You will not get a punishment for the attempt (though you're obviously imprisoned again) because we believe that yearning for freedom is part of the human existence. Having said that: It's about false positives and false negatives once again. Yes, executing a convicted criminal means they won't be able to reoffend. Executing an innocent person who got wrongfully imprisoned removes someone from society as well; someone who did nothing wrong but the state and the legal system failed them.
I agree that the legal system must be airtight. Thankfully with the Trump Reunion Tour in full swing, many of the progressive hack prosecutors will be removed and it is my belief that law and order will prevail. Dun dun.
I see you haven't changed your media diet lmao
It’s about protecting the free people by removing murderers from society. Removing them from the earth provides a 100% chance that they will not reoffend, thus it is the safer option than prison. A murderer should not have any rights, yet alone more than law-abiding citizens.
As others have said: Every human has the same rights. Murderers in particular do not have more rights than law-abiding citizens. Where did you even hear this ludicrous idea? Or are you simply throwing around phrases hoping no one will notice the inconsistencies?
I am against death penalty. For the sake of the Humanity to move forward. Even one wrongful execution is too much. I mean, wtf. That being said, first degree murderers must serve life sentence, without any of the "he was characterised very good, so we going to release him after he served 15 years" or so.
I'm much more puzzled when unfortunate turn of events occur. A pal with his friends goes to a bar, after a few drinks becomes tipsy, some brawl begins with other company of guys, they punch one another, that other guy fells down and smashes his head to the edge of the table, dead. Those cases are so out of the blue, in that case convict must have a chance to return to society. Scary things.
Fully agreed on all points.
Suppose a case where there's absolutely no doubt someone did what I described above, would you still be against eliminating them just because killing is wrong?
Let's rephrase that: Do you believe the government, the state and possibly corrupt courts should get to decide which citizens live and which don't?
Either killing is wrong or it's not. If someone is unfit to live in society and is a danger to the people around them, lock 'em up for the rest of their lives. I will never support the state killing people, no matter their crimes.
So you can post whatever you want, again and again, educating, explaining, etc., ad nauseam.
Suppose I was politically far right - which I'm definitely not, but suppose I was.
How long do you think I'd survive here, pushing my agenda the way you do?
Would I deserve "the same rights and respect"?
Just curious, no bitching.
No worries, those are fair questions. Especially if you believe the far left and far right to be equally dangerous or bad.
But those question are also very easily answered with the paradox of tolerance. Far right ideals are exclusionary by design. Being too tolerant to such views ultimately leads to intolerance taking over.
Look at the topics I'm talking about when discussing my politics: I'm talking about people being treated equal, no matter their status, their gender, their sex, their religion, their views, their nationality or ethnicity. I'm not shy about criticizing capitalism, but I'm not talking about starting a violent revolution (for example). I don't know, maybe me championing trans rights goes too far for some, but I don't think that's on the same level as advocating for segregation based on nationality (to give an example of far right talking points).
Lord knows I'm not the easiest member on this forum to interact with. I'm aware. And you could argue that the admins have been rather lenient so far. But I don't think that's because of my politics; I think they are willing to give most folks here multiple chances. I'm after all far more to the left than most people on this board. We also have folks here who are staunch conservatives and they haven't been kicked off either. If someone were far right and started openly discriminating on the basis of ethnicity for example, they'd probably be banned; not because they are right wing, but because functioning in a society is a social contract and when you go against that contract (namely, respecting others) you're likely to see consequences to those actions.
As to not talk in too many hypotheticals: Which parts of the "agenda" I'm pushing do you think goes too far and would deserve a warning or banning? I'm not talking about the way I'm interacting with others and my aggressive and hostile tone at times; I'd like to know about the
content of my comments that might seem too inappropriate for an open forum. And I'm not looking for or setting up any gotchas, I genuinely would like to hear your perspective on that because I find that to be a very interesting conversation.
