Norwegian terror attacks

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Yes, they are. I guess there are not so many countries where you can discuss politics (or sports  :D) with MPs in a pub nearby the Parliament after work ... I wonder how this tragedy will influence on this openness. Since this seems more and more like the deeds of a lone nutcase, I hope that we can remain the open society that we have used to be. However, I guess general awareness will be higher. I just hope it doesn't turn into paranoia.
 
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Eveyone was fooled by this man. The police, but also the media. The media made the stuff in Oslo bigger than what happened on the island, but I doubt if that was correct. Looks like (to me at least), the Oslo thing was a terrible distraction of the "real" aim of this Christian fundamentalist who has extreme rightwing, nationalistic views.
Night Prowler said:
Muslims are overreacting about that Muhammad caricature. Christianity is trashed in the media every day, but you don't see Christians blowing up buildings and people because of that.
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For the Greater Good of God
 
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First of all, my sympathies to Eddies Wingman and the Norwegian people. I hope this will remain an isolated incident and won't force your government into any rash decisions.

Alex Jones is reporting that the bomb near the parliament buildings was actually underground, according to some eyewitnesses and the outcome of the blast - apparently the pavement was lifted off the ground.

Plus, there was a police bomb drill a few days earlier. Isn't it funny how the various countries' police forces keeps doing drills/simulations on the same spots where shit happens a few days after (London underground police drill, 9/11 NORAD simulation)? http://www.infowars.com/oslo-terror-who ... -it-serve/
 
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The bomb would in itself be enough to be a defining moment in modern Norwegian history. Seven killed and more than 10 injured is major news and shocking in itself. The fact that it seems to have been a mere distraction from a premeditated massacre is beyond comprehension.

I don't think I can tackle writing more about this for some time now. I'll go to office and write on my thesis. I am terribly sad about what has happened, but there is not much I can do about the situation, so I will get on with my work ... if I can.
 
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Goodluck with the writing mate. Play some good music. It can give some spirit.
A Twitter account attributed to the suspect has also emerged but it only has one post, which is a quote from philosopher John Stuart Mill: "One person with a belief is equal to the force of 100,000 who have only interests."

According to the Norway police the suspect uttered his aversion to Islam various times on internet.
He also criticized the European immigration policy. He called himself a nationalist and finds that the media are not critical enough about Islam. Last year he wrote that many conservative parties, such as the Tories in Great Britain, are in an identity crisis.

In the same piece he wrote that the PVV (Party of Freedom - Dutch political party, led by Geert Wilders) may call themselves a real conservative party by right.

In a reaction Wilders called the suspect "a violent, sick psychopath".
 
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More disturbing news. Police now suspect that the terrorist may not have been acting alone - that there may be a second gunman involved.
 
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Official death toll rises to 91.

I'm speechless.
 
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Ranko said:
Alex Jones is reporting that the bomb near the parliament buildings was actually underground, according to some eyewitnesses and the outcome of the blast - apparently the pavement was lifted off the ground.
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Alex Jones isn't exactly a reliable source of information, given that he's more of a raving lunatic. This might be true, but I'd wait until I heard from someone who actually is involved, or works for a reliable news source.

It really seems like the island was the target. Utterly terrible. And with no published motivation. I am...sad. Very sad for Norway. Yet...

Eddies Wingman said:
I am terribly sad about what has happened, but there is not much I can do about the situation, so I will get on with my work ... if I can.
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Yet there is an appropriate reaction to these sorts of things, and this is it.
 
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Ranko said:
Alex Jones is reporting that the bomb near the parliament buildings was actually underground, according to some eyewitnesses and the outcome of the blast - apparently the pavement was lifted off the ground.
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I've actually been waiting for this.

Can't Alex Jones shut the fuck up for a change and just leave real tragedies out of his conspiracy fiction? The way he has been pissing on the memory of victims of tragedies and attacks makes my stomach turn.

You can also see his methods here: He passes statements made in the heat of the moment by individuals clearly under shock for a fact, if it serves his hogwash. Investigation results? Why use those?

There is a word for people who are like that:

GULLIBLE
 
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How is calling 9/11 a conspiracy pissing on the memories of the victims, when that's closer to the truth than the official facts?

Okay, maybe his coverage of the Norwegian incident turned out to be a bit out of proportion, with the guy turning out to be a neo-Nazi and all.
 
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A bit out of proportion? You mean complete and utter garbage?

At least wait until the bodies are cold before coming up with this sort of bullshit. There are few things that provoke me more than people who try to use tragedies like this to get attention for their own ramblings.

I also saw that Swedish writer Jan Guillou had written that if this had been Islamic terrorism, the Norwegian Progress Party (and also Sverigedemokraterna) would be celebrating with champagne right now. What a despicable thing to say. He should be very ashamed of himself. I own a couple of his books, now I consider throwing them away.
 
I've updated the title to reflect the changing tide of this, as this is really no longer about the bombing.
 
I guess most of you came to the same conclusion...I think that the bomb was a diversion so that all the police came to the bomb site while he started his killing spree on the island.
 
In retrospect it is quite obvious. If he wanted to really inflict maximum damage on the government, he would not carry out the attack now in the middle of the summer holiday.

I have only one word for this. This is treason. The worst thing is, I think his motivation was that he thought the current government - and anyone directly connected to them - were just that, traitors. I hope he never gets out of prison.
 
This was all over our news channels here - until it was reported that Amy Whinehouse was found dead.



The guy in custody is been said to be working alone. Can he really come up with such an explosive without some sort of help? I'm no expert on explosives, but a bomb to cause that sort of damage is not the sort of thing you can knock up in a garden shed.
 
Apparently, he has started a small farm in order to be able to buy fertilizers without raising suspicion. As you may know, fertilizers can be used to make explosives. That's what he has done.
 
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Ranko said:
when that's closer to the truth than the official facts?
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Who says it is? Alex Tool just always chooses not to believe the official version and passes the first thing he hears that is more convenient to him for a fact.

Eddies Wingman said:
At least wait until the bodies are cold before coming up with this sort of bullshit. There are few things that provoke me more than people who try to use tragedies like this to get attention for their own ramblings.
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My thoughts exactly. When I heard of the attacks, I was sad. When I heard what Jones said, I was furious.

Albie said:
This was all over our news channels here - until it was reported that Amy Whinehouse was found dead.
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So now we are going to witness how a major event drops out of the news less than 24 hours after it happened. That should be a record. The sad thing is: Everybody saw it coming with Winehouse, and she is basically responsible for it herself. The Norwegians neither had it coming, nor did they deserve it.
 
By the way, police have now confirmed that the terrorist surrendered immediately when they arrived ... That makes it even clearer that this is premeditated to the smallest detail. It also rules out any chance that this guy could be declared mentally unfit for trial and prison. Not that I think he would want it, this is a man who obviously wanted to make a statement in the most horrible way and was prepared to go to prison for it.
 
I'm not sure the Winehouse death will dwarf this. Well, probably in the USA. Not like they were paying attention anyway.

This man had one simple goal in mind: he wanted to frighten those who disagreed with him politically by striking at the youth of the progressive movement in Norway. It's like a crazy Canadian shot kids at an NDP rally, or a Conservative in the UK gunned down Labour youth.

This could happen anywhere, but especially in countries where the fundamentalist Christian view has been stifled due to the vast majority of people moving on.
 
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