Metallica

King Nothing
Until It Sleeps
The House That Jack Built
Fuel
Carpe Diem Baby
The Memory Remains
Hero of The Day
Where The Wild Things Are
Bleeding Me
Wasting My Hate

....I think.
 
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SixesAlltheway said:
King Nothing
Until It Sleeps
The House That Jack Built
Fuel
Carpe Diem Baby
The Memory Remains
Hero of The Day
Where The Wild Things Are
Bleeding Me
Wasting My Hate

....I think.
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I've done one in the past here. Can't remember it exactly but here's a new one:

1. Fuel
2. The Memory Remains
3. The House Jack Built
4. Until It Sleeps
5. King Nothing
6. Hero of the Day
7. Devil's Dance
8. Where the Wild Things Are
9. The Outlaw Torn
 
I'll probably do my own version of (Re)Load after I've re-listened to both albums. Though, like I said, I love ReLoad as it is and I wouldn't change much. Still, I'll try.

St. Anger... I still don't know what to think about that one. The drums are abysmal and the songs are overlong and repetitive... yet from time to time I enjoy it. Also, most of the songs are better if listened to on their own. The whole album gets really exhausting in the second half (maybe even earlier), but the songs are often quite fine. It definitely might have been better.
 
When you combine Load/Reload you'll get an album of good songs but still shitty Metallica.
 
jazz from hell said:
Maybe I like that they tried something new with St. Anger, it's pure, it's a statement, and it seems real to me. DM is alright too, tight playing, but it almost seems their primary concern was to please their 80s loving audience. In that sense St. Anger is maybe more 'artistic'?
I think I can understand why you don't like it, and I'm not gonna defend the drum sound, but... can we at least agree the title track's good?
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I'm not all that sure St. Anger was a statement. It obviously followed the nu-metal/hardcore trend going on at the time. It's the only album where I thought Metallica was pandering to the mainstream. Not Black Album, not Load/ReLoad, but St. Anger.

Death Magnetic was definitely a fan pleaser, though I don't think it was financially motivated. They probably wanted to go back to the roots anyway.
 
The Flash said:
I'm not all that sure St. Anger was a statement. It obviously followed the nu-metal/hardcore trend going on at the time. It's the only album where I thought Metallica was pandering to the mainstream. Not Black Album, not Load/ReLoad, but St. Anger.

Death Magnetic was definitely a fan pleaser, though I don't think it was financially motivated. They probably wanted to go back to the roots anyway.
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Re: Load --To me, it felt like they did everything they could to get into the grunge party...I mean...they changed everything for that record. Musically they morphed into Alice in Chains meets Aerosmith, they cut the hair, changed out the wardrobe, changed the logo, changed how they did the liner notes (less 'grimdark' tough guy stuff and more abstract alternative weirdness), Lars stripped down the drum kit (smaller drum kits were the thing back then), Jason started playing Sadowsky basses (vintage look/sound which was en vogue at the time for bass players) the music videos were basically like every other alternative rock video of the era, James really started relying on his southern rock croon/drawl, Kirk purposely simplified his solos and popularized his wah obsession (trendy for the time), and the production was stripped down like every other mid 90s alternative record...
 
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They don't just perform rock songs, they create sound sculptures.
St. Anger is their depth record. Down-tuned, everyone 'dead' bar bass.
Death Magnetic is a time machine, right down to the DeLorean logo.
Kill-Justice are height, Black-S&M width.
 
Agree with most of what you said there @soundwave except the part about the grunge thing - I don't really hear much grunge on the two albums. The thing is, Metallica built a huge image on The Black Album that lasted 3-4 years and then tore it down themselves to be able to "be themselves"

Check this interview too:

 
SixesAlltheway said:
Agree with most of what you said there @soundwave except the part about the grunge thing - I don't really hear much grunge on the two albums. The thing is, Metallica built a huge image on The Black Album that lasted 3-4 years and then tore it down themselves to be able to "be themselves"

Check this interview too:

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Thanks for sharing that. That was interesting watch all of these years later. And you're right, I probably should have said "alternative" instead of "grunge".

On one hand I agree with James that you don't have to "look or sound a certain way" to promote/like a certain genre of music. I totally get and appreciate that. Especially in metal where about 90% of the bands look and sound exactly the same. My frustration though, is that Metallica ended up looking like....every other alternative rock band who was trendy at the time. It didn't feel like artistitc experimentation "or being real" to me, it felt calculated to fit with the times (especially with everything else I listed above). They did the same thing on St. Anger and changed their look and sound to fit with the times, and when old school metal experienced a mini-revival in the 2000s, then they tried to go retro with Death Magnetic. It's almost as if James/Lars have a deep seated need for cultural relevancy/legitimacy that they have find a way to "fit in".

Because rock is in such an underground state right now, I'm really curious to see what they will do with the next record. There really isn't a trend that they can morph into this time!
 
I think the next album will be a better produced (hopefully) version of Death Magnetic. Maybe a little less bloated, depending on the producer they're working with and whether or not he'll challenge the band.
 
I think James going pure country in the Load/ReLoad era is a great example that they did go to being more truthful to themselves. Not to mention them obviously doing some self evaluation on songs like The Memory Remains and King Nothing.

I don't think there's anything wrong with incorporating stuff from what's going on at the time into your music. Load/ReLoad had a stripped down edge to them that was pure 90s, but they still sounded like Metallica. As I said, St. Anger is the only Metallica album where the band doesn't really sound like Metallica at all and the fact that the sound emulates the most popular metal genre of the time does give the impression that they pandered to the mainstream.

Still, if St. Anger was actually good, I'd have no problem with them emulating what was popular at the time.
 
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King Nothing, self evaluation? That song is about Axl Rose and the incident at Montreal, as far as I'm aware...The Memory Remains could be about something similar.
James is the most sincere out of the bunch, Until It Sleeps, Mama Said, and so on...however if Chuck's mother died he would made a death metal song about, it or a classical piece. Country? By a metal band? I don't dig that. I don't feel like you need to switch style completely if you change personally.

The very length of Black tour grants enough proof that they enjoyed being rock stars more than anything. What was the creative fruit after that tour, inspiration they magically caught playing in front of millions across the globe? Load, Reload.
 
Zare said:
King Nothing, self evaluation? That song is about Axl Rose and the incident at Montreal, as far as I'm aware.
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The music video isn't. I meant that, not the lyrics.

Memory Remains is quite obviously about the band themselves. "Fortune, fame but the memory remains". There's even an obvious reference to their older ways. (Fade to black)

Zare said:
Country? By a metal band? I don't dig that. I don't feel like you need to switch style completely if you change personally.
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No artist needs to do anything. You're not owed anything by them. If they so wish, they can do it, you're free to dislike it but you're not cheated out of anything.
 
They can do whatever they want. So can I, and if they play country I won't listen to it.
Very simple.
 
The single sounds boring to me... Just as I would imagine their new stuff. Anyway, it's kind of surreal to see Metallica finally announcing it, lol.
 
Wow. That was unexpected. I like the track but the album title and the cover are a bit meh...

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