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Why does anyone need chatGPT in the first place? If you have a question, there are search engines. If you need to write something, you have a brain and a pen or a keyboard. Am I just obtuse? $20 a month is a rip off for shit you don’t need anyway.
 
I needed it to generate charts and analyse data that would take me much time should I were doing it by myself. The free version wouldn't do, hell even with $20/month I had considerable limitations. And it wasn't that good either, I had to double check and correct it all the time. So I'm happy there's something I can use for free.
 
Diesel 11 said:
Why does anyone need chatGPT in the first place? If you have a question, there are search engines. If you need to write something, you have a brain and a pen or a keyboard. Am I just obtuse? $20 a month is a rip off for shit you don’t need anyway.
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Search engines are becoming increasingly useless. Google search is basically just an ad aggregator at this point. My trusted go-to search engine for some ten years or more, DuckDuckGo, is quickly developing in that direction too. I've actually started to use ChatGPT for simple queries I would have used a search engine for earlier, and then once I have information, I use trusted sources to verify it.

A simple example: I was looking for the dimensions of certain paper formats a while ago, and all I got was links for print shops. I asked ChatGPT and it just gave me the dimensions; then I entered those dimensions in search engines and got the result confirmed.
 
Perun said:
Search engines are becoming increasingly useless. Google search is basically just an ad aggregator at this point. My trusted go-to search engine for some ten years or more, DuckDuckGo, is quickly developing in that direction too. I've actually started to use ChatGPT for simple queries I would have used a search engine for earlier, and then once I have information, I use trusted sources to verify it.

A simple example: I was looking for the dimensions of certain paper formats a while ago, and all I got was links for print shops. I asked ChatGPT and it just gave me the dimensions; then I entered those dimensions in search engines and got the result confirmed.
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Is this the same bot that didn't know who Paul Day is?
 
Perun said:
Search engines are becoming increasingly useless. Google search is basically just an ad aggregator at this point. My trusted go-to search engine for some ten years or more, DuckDuckGo, is quickly developing in that direction too. I've actually started to use ChatGPT for simple queries I would have used a search engine for earlier, and then once I have information, I use trusted sources to verify it.

A simple example: I was looking for the dimensions of certain paper formats a while ago, and all I got was links for print shops. I asked ChatGPT and it just gave me the dimensions; then I entered those dimensions in search engines and got the result confirmed.
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With this in mind, I find chatbots to be theoretically more useful than search engines. To me it's a similar progression to what we've seen with certain websites being more commonly used in apps rather than in browser. If I need to quickly reference something, want a comprehensive answer to a particular question, a chatbot might be more useful than a search engine. The problem is that most chatbots I have interacted with don't interpret questions very well, make frequent errors, and clearly the developers have ulterior motives that lead to information being censored.
 
AI is a tool. Whoever understands that faster than others and makes use of it successfully will be in advantage against competition.
I found ChatGPT to be not mature enough for that price. $200/month for the pro version? Get the fuck out. Even the $20/month was overkill for what it was and I wouldn't mind for more if it were more capable. Or that I were to spend less time training it.
For all that and more I was very happy for DeepSeek's breakthrough. Great way to start the Year of the Snake :)
 
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