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MrKnickerbocker
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What do you mean in fast fwd?
____no5
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That I didn’t watch the episodes in full, just some key scenes, some reading about characters on the internet, then moving the bar with my cursor until I find a scene that wanted to see again and so on.
It took me a bit less than 3 weeks, usually during dinner or weekends. Also it was not linear. The reading from the internet was giving me clues where I wanted to focus next. That was mainly for 1 -4 seasons plus some selected scenes from 5 & 6.
Though the last 4 seasons I saw them again and in order, episode par episode (key scenes and cursor), 5 -6 yesterday, 7 -8 today.
I was very impressed by some fine details from the Iron Throne vision of Danaerys in the last episode of season 2 that came true in the very last episode. Very well written, kudos in retrospect!
It took me a bit less than 3 weeks, usually during dinner or weekends. Also it was not linear. The reading from the internet was giving me clues where I wanted to focus next. That was mainly for 1 -4 seasons plus some selected scenes from 5 & 6.
Though the last 4 seasons I saw them again and in order, episode par episode (key scenes and cursor), 5 -6 yesterday, 7 -8 today.
I was very impressed by some fine details from the Iron Throne vision of Danaerys in the last episode of season 2 that came true in the very last episode. Very well written, kudos in retrospect!
This is your worst take ever.
MrKnickerbocker
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This sounds so much harder than just watching the show.
Edington
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Well, yeah, it was probably written by the same people...
____no5
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No because I’ve seen the episodes already in the past. It’s exactly like having read a book before again and again and open it at random pages every now and then. Or a film. The opposite of hard.
And that -since this scene is also in the book A Storm of Swords- George RR Martin knew how the series ends already by the end of 1990s.
Anyway, that must have been my favorite scene in the series, the one that unlock it. And loved that they didn’t bother to reproduce every detail in the throne room, exactly as a dream or vision come true isn’t exactly the same with what happens.
The scene in the book is absolutely not the same as the scene in the show. It was changed fairly obviously, and the vast majority of Dany's House of the Undying prophecies were removed from the show.
____no5
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So having read the book, would you assume that George Martin knew what would happen to Danaerys by the end of 1990s or not? It’s obvious that the writers knew by end of Season 2.
Another key that was unlocked this time was Jaimie’s arc. There was much noise about it on the internet, I hadn’t particularly liked it or hated it at the time.
Yesterday I took the time and pressed pause each time the plan was on Brienne’s writings to read what she wrote. The last line was “He died defending his Queen” which made more sense for his arc, not to mention the double meaning queen could have in this case.
No, it's not. He straight up had not told them what happened at that point, but he made it known what sort of things should be in the scene. He did not tell them the end game until closer to S5/6.
The fact that you think Jaime's arc was proper shows that you really don't understand what was happening. His arc was about growing independence from Cersei. I think it is highly likely that in the books he is the one who kills Cersei, and they die together - but not DEFENDING her.
____no5
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Or one can say that he came back to die with her not live with her. As Brienne puts it there was a sense of duty which doesn’t contradict his earned independence.
There always will be things left unsaid in official narratives such as the book of knights, we all saw what happened and we all saw what Brienne wrote. We know she wasn’t just his Queen and we saw he didn’t defend her, rather shielded her from the falling stones. The audience having seen what happened is given a chance to interpret the code behind Brienne’s words and unlock the arc.
Yeah, I guess if you didn't actually watch the last season and only saw a couple bits you might think that. But if you watched what he actually did and said, you would see that it comes out of left field and makes no sense in how the story was portrayed on the screen.
____no5
Free Man
Fair point. Back then when I watched the last 2 seasons in full it made much less sense than yesterday in fast fwd. The way I did it yesterday it was the big picture and it seems that's how the writers lost it, they had the clues and the big picture but didn't take the time to properly develop the story so it unfolds naturally.
____no5
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So I was paying $20/month for ChatGPT and still had limitations, see the Pro tier was $200/month (!!) no way I would pay that money for the quality of services I was getting.
Naturally, I was hoping something will come up in a year or two to force OpenAI to lower their prices, thank god it came in a matter of months.
At least DeepSeek is free. Not perfect, but you bet ChatGPT had frustrtaing limitations on how much data it could analyse for that tier.
So thanks but no thanks, I'll take the free offering. Not to mention that their HQ is 1 1/2 hour from here. In the greater scheme of things it's like next door neighbours
Naturally, I was hoping something will come up in a year or two to force OpenAI to lower their prices, thank god it came in a matter of months.
At least DeepSeek is free. Not perfect, but you bet ChatGPT had frustrtaing limitations on how much data it could analyse for that tier.
So thanks but no thanks, I'll take the free offering. Not to mention that their HQ is 1 1/2 hour from here. In the greater scheme of things it's like next door neighbours
