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H. I got out of school when I was 19, did a year of civil service and have been at the university for the last eight years. I feel like a dinosaur.
 
I got out of university seven years ago and I already have ten years of work experience. Am I old? I must be.
 
Actually to sum it up, what saddens me is that the guys who will get into the greatest departments of the greatest universities are robotic maniacs who only solve problems, take exams, take classes, do tests while I spend my time researching scientific informations, reading encyclopedias, learning about stuff, broading my sense of knowledge and the way I think, writing articles, stories, poems and still have to find time to compete with these people to get a chance to show my skills on the next level.

The girl who finished 2nd in the average grades last year didn't now who Adolf Hitler was. What do you think about it ?
 
Thing is, most people who started with their studies this year are about 17 or 18 years old. Some even seem to be 16. The reason is that conscription was abolished and a year was cut from the school curriculum. If you start your studies at 17, you are expected to have your MA degree by the time you're 22. 22! And then you're supposed to work until you're 70! It doesn't make any sense!
 
Perun said:
Thing is, most people who started with their studies this year are about 17 or 18 years old. Some even seem to be 16. The reason is that conscription was abolished and a year was cut from the school curriculum. If you start your studies at 17, you are expected to have your MA degree by the time you're 22. 22! And then you're supposed to work until you're 70! It doesn't make any sense!
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WTF? Master degree by 22? :help:

What was the motivation for cutting a year from the compulsory part of school? And in which part was it cut? The "ground school" part, or from the equivalent of "high school"? (Would that be "weitergehende Schule" like in Norway?)
 
Dr. Eddies Wingman said:
What was the motivation for cutting a year from the compulsory part of school? And in which part was it cut? The "ground school" part, or from the equivalent of "high school"? (Would that be "weitergehende Schule" like in Norway?)
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The latter. The motivation really is to get people to start studying earlier. The rationale behind it is that the last year is only a preparation for the final exams, and you didn't learn anything new, so it was a waste of time. I really don't want to live in the country that is run by people who underwent that sort of education.
 
We recently added another year of high school, so basically everyone graduates at 19.

Nice talking to you all, but I need my beauty sleep. Night!
 
Well, it certainly is a different approach than here. The final exams in high school are important all right, but not so all-defining. When applying for college/university after high school, the average of all final grades from high school counts. For example, my final high school curriculum included more than 25 individual grades, and the final exams were only 3 of those. The goal of high school in Norway seems to be just as much preparing people for the adult life, as it is preparing people for higher education. I like the idea, but the drop-out rate is too high. It seems not everyone values courses that introduce things like personal economics, society knowledge and the history of Norwegian literature.
 
Ariana said:
We recently added another year of high school, so basically everyone graduates at 19.
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That's disgusting. I really can't stand school. I go to an art school so I get to spend 3 hours doing music, but the academics just seem pointless to me. My earth science class mostly consists of watching youtube videos and Google Earth.
 
Mosh said:
My earth science class mostly consists of watching youtube videos and Google Earth.
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That sounds more like custody than education. "Let's keep the youngsters in here. They aren't learning anything, but at least they won't cause any mischief".

Anyway. Good night from Oslo.
 
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