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Ariana said:
What the hell is an oral exam in maths? Never heard of such a thing.
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They give you some problems, you get a bit of preparation time and then present your solution on the blackboard.

The night before my final exam in English at school, I was having a night out. A bunch of people were headbanging really close to each other and me and a guy there crashed our heads big time. I think I passed out for a second but I thought I was fine. Didn't tell my parents, went to the exam the next day and somehow managed to score the highest result in class. A few days later I found out I had suffered a concussion. :D
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And they say headbanging makes you stupid... :D
 
Teachers really do matter in personal views of classes, I've been witnessing that all my life. I was super into maths when I was a little kid, I was into proportion problems when I was just six and stuff. I remember working on maths problems with my mom for hours every single day. My first two years at school were also nice on that segment, then my teacher changed, I backed off from maths because he couldn't teach maths properly. Then on the 6th grade I had a horrible maths teacher that made me lose interest in maths. Then in high school I have the worst teacher I've ever seen in maths class and I absolutely despise maths right now, I don't want to study it and I suck at it.

I'm more interested in literature, geography, history and language classes.
 
Of course, we have to tell Flash that it's not really all that bad and that we were only very unfortunate in our biography to have fate give us a selection of terrible circumstances that spoiled maths for us.
 
The problem I always had was not seeing any actual value in it.. who cases what 'x' equals unless there is a fundamental problem behind it. It is completely uninteresting to me.
 
The main problem with me is that you have to have great level of knowledge in maths and geometry to succeed in our educational system. (the national university entrance exam) I want to study law and my aims are the biggest universities in the country. I'll succeed at maths at the end of the day and probably will get into the university I want, but still, it won't be fun.

What saddens me is that I'd simply crush anybody at my age around me with my level of knowledge in culture, geography, history, literature and language but the educational system here doesn't give me any chance to prove it. My friends all know about me but still, that gets me nothing in terms of a career.
 
It was quite convincing. Even the main character believed it in the end.
 
How do you get in these universities?
If you want to study law here, you have to sit for two entry exams - Bulgarian and history. No maths involved at all.
 
Ariana said:
How do you get in these universities?
If you want to study law here, you have to sit for two entry exams - Bulgarian and history. No maths involved at all.
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You see, that's why Turkish educational system sucks serious ass. You don't need maths to study law, but you need maths to get into the universities that teach law.
 
To me, it doesn't sound too bad, actually. A test for general knowledge before they let you study sounds reasonable. Now I wonder, is there any effective difference between the university entry exam and your final exam at school? Here in Germany, your final exam diploma explicitly states that you have acquired the qualification for studying at the university.
 
There's four main options to study in Turkey, you pick your way on the 10th grade. In 9th grade, you get all classes, Maths, Geometry, Literature, Turkish, Biology, Chemistry, Physics etc. In 10th grade, you have to pick one from these options :

1 ) Numerical Science (it's called Sayısal which translates into numerical but that doesn't really give the idea of the option) : This way gets you to medicine, engineering, stuff about maths etc.
2 ) Equal Weight (also called Turkish-Maths) : This is the option I preferred since it's the way to get into law schools. You get Maths, Geometry, Literature, Turkish, History, Psychology, Sociology and Geography, mostly.
3 ) Oral : Excludes numerical stuff. This path leads you to political sciences, international relations etc.
4 ) Linguistic : Speaks for itself.
 
Okay, what you describe sounds exactly like what the German system is like.
 
We have specific entry exams for each university and they cover different material from what we all study at school. For example, we all cover a specific area in history, which is mandatory. Those who want to study law, archeology, history and so on, have to get additional preparation that covers much more. The same goes for all other subjects. The grades that you get on these entry tests are what determines whether you get to study this or not. Your overall score from school is added to that, but it weighs less than the grade from the entry exam.
 
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