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Different than here (US), you take one of two exams (SAT or ACT), which are general math, english, logic, writing to get into a school no matter what you plan to major in. There are optional subject area tests, but few universities require them
 
But the problem is that this system doesn't work properly, especially with the last changes on it, examination system changes almost every single year.

There's now two parts of the exam. First one is called YGS (stands for Higher Education Examination), and the second one is called LYS (stands for Undergraduate Placement Examination). In the first exam you get questions from the 9th grade to pass the elimination. 40 Turkish, 40 Maths, 40 Social Studies, 40 Science. We, equal weight students do not get science classes apart from the 9th grade and as you can imagine, we forgot what we learned in the 9th grade over the time. Still, we have to go back and study and take the exam. Numerical Science students have a huge advantage on that deparment since literature and social studies count on general knowledge but sciences do not. In the second part you take the exams you want. But there's also an advantage on Numerical Science students because they can take part in the equal weight and oral exams and succeed if they fail at numerical science exams. We do not have that chance since we don't know anything specific about biology, chemistry and physics.

There's also another problem. I took three seperate exams at the end of every year at secondary school. Maximum point was 500. I got 474 in my first, 467 in my second and 475 in my third which led me to get into a high level high school. Getting into a high level high school was had a point advantage against lower level high schools in the university entrance exam before. But it has since changed entirely and all high schools are considered on the same level, meaning no advantage at all. And since high level school teachers' exams are much harder than lower level school teachers' exams, we have a huge disadvantage. For example, say I get 85/100 on a literature exam in this school, I'm sure I'd get 100/100 with ease on lower level school exam.

There are so many reasonings behind these awful moves, but it'd take hours to explain them all to you.

(by the way, Perun, I've heard from the people I know from Germany that what we study at high school in Turkey is mostly not taught in Germany until university, also a stretch, compressing too much knowledge in a short amount of time)
 
There's a much more simple rule in Germany (although not in all states and all subjects). They look at the average grade from your final exams and that's what decides over whether you're eligible to study the subject or not. With my average, I'm non-eligible for virtually all major subjects in all major universities.
 
And that's all maths' fault, right? :p

EDIT: I thought we might be into the 1970s by the end of the week, but I obviously underestimated our (my) posting abilities.
 
Physics was my worst subject of all, but I didn't have it in my final exams, thankfully.
 
I'll take the exams to get into the university in the summer of 2014. I've been lazy as hell for two and a half years but still, I always get high grades in social studies and linguistic classes even though I don't study at all. I'm horrible at maths and geometry, of course. I haven't got much time to pressure myself to work, I better get a move on soon.

I don't want to be a disappointment to my family, the people that care about me and most importantly, myself. I led my schools in grades all my life before high school, what the hell I'm doing now ? Talking to myself on an Iron Maiden forum. :p
 
Heh, my record was far from perfect. Far, far from it. English, history, political sciences, geography and German were the only subjects I was ever any good at.
 
The Flash said:
I'll take the exams to get into the university in the summer of 2014. I've been lazy as hell for two and a half years but still, I always get high grades in social studies and linguistic classes even though I don't study at all. I'm horrible at maths and geometry, of course. I haven't got much time to pressure myself to work, I better get a move on soon.

I don't want to be a disappointment to my family, the people that care about me and most importantly, myself. I led my schools in grades all my life before high school, what the hell I'm doing now ? Talking to myself on an Iron Maiden forum. :p
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First, you are not talking to yourself.
Second, your family won't be disappointed by your grades. That's what everyone thinks but it doesn't happen.
Third, what you're doing now is being a teenager. Nothing out of the ordinary.
 
They are actually disappointed that I'm not working. I have to live up to my potential. That's no pressure on me, though, don't worry, I've been clutch so far. :p

It may be me being a teenager but being in a class where almost everyone works hard as hell (I even got a classmate who studies 10 hours a day) is not exactly helpful either.
 
Oh, that's different. If they see you wasting away your potential they might have a thing or two to tell you.
 
The Flash said:
It may be me being a teenager but being in a class where almost everyone works hard as hell (I even got a classmate who studies 10 hours a day) is not exactly helpful either.
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Tell you what: Apart from your classmate who studies 10 hours a day and will have no wistful memories of his youth once he's old, it very often seems like people are working hard when in reality, they are not. They just know how to present themselves better. And I bet that to your classmates, you look like someone who works hard as well.
 
Of course. Not just them, I tell myself all about wasting my potential. I hold the keys to open the door of success, I just have to do the opening motion.

@ Per - Not really, the guy I'm talking about led the school in grades last year, averaging 98.4 out of 100 points. :D The guy is a machine.
 
You're 16 for fuck's sake! What kind of stuff do they indoctrinate you with in school? :blink:
 
Saapanael said:
Interesting thing btw, every time I'm up for a long time, I get minor hallutination-like things.
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I log on after a few hours off and find five fresh pages of posts - this is the one I feel like commenting on now.

Back in 2005, I participated in the 540 km bicycle race from Trondheim to Oslo. Far from the fastest participant, I used 33 hours. That included breaks for eating, drinking, peeing ... but not sleeping. The start was at midnight between Friday and Saturday. It was something like 2 AM on Sunday and I had around 120 km left, when I could swear I was seeing someone standing on the roadside, eating a banana - but I also knew that the one I thought I was observing, was several kilometres behind me. An hour or so before, I think I was nearly asleep on the bicycle seat. I thought I was taking photos using a flash, only to realize those flashes were the road lights.

I reached the finish line in Oslo on Sunday morning, 9:30. By then I had been awake since Friday morning, 5 AM, as my plans were to get up early on Friday and sleep a few hours before start. I did never get those hours, as I had to do some extra fixes on my bicycle. So, by the time of the start, I'd already been awake for 19 hours ... that means 52 hours straight without sleep.
 
The Flash said:
@ Per - Not really, the guy I'm talking about led the school in grades last year, averaging 98.4 out of 100 points. :D The guy is a machine.
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So what? People who are at their best in school do not necessarily succeed in life. It's not about how much you know, it's about how you use it to your own advantage.
 
Ariana said:
So what? People who are at their best at school do not necessarily succeed in life. It's not about how much you know, it's about how you use it to your own advantage.
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That is true, I'm not competing with him in any sense, anyway. Last week I got 92/100 on an English exam, he got 100/100. He can't speak English one bit, look where I am.
 
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