Legacy of the Beast Tour 2018 - CONTAINS SPOILERS

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But we all know Maiden, they tend to speed up songs as the tour progresses...

On TBOS, IESF ended up being performed much faster at the end of the tour.
 
Also to underline what Nicko says in this matter:

"I'll go and run the set. I'll learn the songs, like the older songs we haven't played in a while. I'll listen to the live versions, but they're all too quick. [Laughs] I wonder why! They were a lot quicker than the album versions, so I actually went back and listened between the two, then what I'd do, I found a happy medium where I would clock the timings of the intros and the middle section, say for 'Sign Of The Cross'. 'Sign Of The Cross' is one of those songs that has to have a life of its own. [Mimics drumbeat] before the solos, if we go too quick there, the solos are too fast. There's no actual meter between one section to the other. They're all sort of moody, so it's just kind of re-learning through the live and the album version because the album version, actually [mimics drumbeat again], it's really quick. So, I sit down and try to work it out. "
 
It just sounds like he is making up excuses,haha. I mean this is the thing with the live shows,you feed of the audience and get more energy. Although I get where he is coming from isn't a bit too late to actually see the problem with the speeds after 35 y ars of playing with Maiden???
 
Guys, they are getting older. I think what we see it to be expected. All in all they are in good shape for their age and also seem to be having fun. It is a fact that they are an established firm and they need to bring the cash for everyone working for them. This means that they need to get on the road and play. Everyone respects Maiden and they are far from an embarrassment. So all is good.
 
There's something atrociously wrong with Stockholm bootleg. Timing issues, tuning, idk...I listened to several songs and they were full of mistakes.
 
Zare said:
There's something atrociously wrong with Stockholm bootleg. Timing issues, tuning, idk...I listened to several songs and they were full of mistakes.
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Davey had a pretty off night. His solos weren't up to his usual standard.

And of course there is the SOTC trainwreck.
 
Not only SOTC but FTGGOG and some early moments, maybe WED. I'll relisten and get back to you with exact moments.
 
Gk1 said:
It just sounds like he is making up excuses,haha. I mean this is the thing with the live shows,you feed of the audience and get more energy. Although I get where he is coming from isn't a bit too late to actually see the problem with the speeds after 35 y ars of playing with Maiden???
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I guess it also has something to do with Steve being able to compromise on the tempo. Adrian was really unhappy about playing the songs too fast in the past and so was Bruce to a certain extent.

Playing at the correct tempo is much better for the overall performance.
 
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Janick gets a lot of flak, but I find Davey sloppier than him in recent years.
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Yes, Dave has been quite sloppy in recent years. But I think he is playing better this year (especially Icarus 2nd solo, which is pure fire) with the lone exception of TNOTB, which is still too bluesy and improvised. That solo needs more firepower.
 
6:50

Janick, WTF are you doing... Play FFS.

It seems that Dave had an off night in Stockholm, while Jan had one in Copenhagen...
 
matic22 said:
It's a shame that this bootleg is from the Stockholm show, because it was probably the worst one performance wise up to date on this tour.
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somebody wrote the arry innervoice after SOTC: "some cunt recorded this".

Sadly, the cunt recorded it very well that is the most detailed recording we have had up to date :D
 
This fuck up talk makes me wonder ...

I don't want to downright presume one of my beloved bands is lazy, per se, so that gives two rather sound reasons to keep a stable setlist:
1.) To have the stage show accurately set up and use lights, pyros etc in the best possible way
2.) So as not to get thrown off by surprises and new song and play tightly and flawlessly.

Now...
1.) Eddie and pyros and everything are cute, but I'm not five, so there's only so much of it I can appreciate before I turn to what interests me the most - which is the music. Now, don't get me wrong, the LOTB sets are bombasting and great and everything, but even then they should be secondary to what the band actually plays.

2.) Well... it's not only the Stockholm gig, sometimes they have problems. I don't expect them to play everything flawlessly and be virtuosos, so I don't really mind, but it leads me to the following thought:

It's unthinkable with Maiden, because they're firmly set in their ways, but I would actually like something like rotating setlists (or at least a few songs within) - in fact I always appreciated when a band did that. Not only would it give the concerts a much more unique atmosphere, but it would also open up more possibilites for crowd interaction for them (that is - the possibility to change the set a bit according to the audience response and the atmosphere in the venue). I mean - it is somewhat mechanical - you have an obviously "Play Classics" crowd before you, but you must play SOTC or FTGGOG for them, because you're set up that way. Or, the people seem bored with the usual stuff, so you'd throw them off with something out of the left field, like The Unbeliever or something.

Meaning, they do fuck ups anyway, but this way it would be actually "for the fun". I'm not sure how many people will agree, but I would find it a bold move. Or - like I said - at least switch some songs around. Play Wicker Man one night, DoG the other, Futureal another etc.
 
JudasMyGuide said:
This fuck up talk makes me wonder ...

I don't want to downright presume one of my beloved bands is lazy, per se, so that gives two rather sound reasons to keep a stable setlist:
1.) To have the stage show accurately set up and use lights, pyros etc in the best possible way
2.) So as not to get thrown off by surprises and new song and play tightly and flawlessly.

Now...
1.) Eddie and pyros and everything are cute, but I'm not five, so there's only so much of it I can appreciate before I turn to what interests me the most - which is the music. Now, don't get me wrong, the LOTB sets are bombasting and great and everything, but even then they should be secondary to what the band actually plays.

2.) Well... it's not only the Stockholm gig, sometimes they have problems. I don't expect them to play everything flawlessly and be virtuosos, so I don't really mind, but it leads me to the following thought:

It's unthinkable with Maiden, because they're firmly set in their ways, but I would actually like something like rotating setlists (or at least a few songs within) - in fact I always appreciated when a band did that. Not only would it give the concerts a much more unique atmosphere, but it would also open up more possibilites for crowd interaction for them (that is - the possibility to change the set a bit according to the audience response and the atmosphere in the venue). I mean - it is somewhat mechanical - you have an obviously "Play Classics" crowd before you, but you must play SOTC or FTGGOG for them, because you're set up that way. Or, the people seem bored with the usual stuff, so you'd throw them off with something out of the left field, like The Unbeliever or something.

Meaning, they do fuck ups anyway, but this way it would be actually "for the fun". I'm not sure how many people will agree, but I would find it a bold move. Or - like I said - at least switch some songs around. Play Wicker Man one night, DoG the other, Futureal another etc.
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No thanks. With a fixed setlist every paying customer gets to see the same show, the one that they feel works best, and the one they chose to play.

Regarding making mistakes live, it is part of a live show. Sometimes things break in the middle of a song, like Nicko's bass drum pedal in Stockholm, sometimes a guitar goes out of tune, sometimes the sound on stage is shit and you cannot hear the cues from other players. It is part of what makes a live show real.
 
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If they were to rotate songs, I wish they would do that with Wicker Man - BNW, TETMD and Clairvoyant.

These songs are by no means rarities and wouldn't be missed too much by the PLAY CLASSICS!!! crowd (who mainly think that after Powerslave, Maiden did not release anything listen worthy apart from FOTD, the song).
They tried to do that before, but they chose songs that are not straight forward (DOD and Paschendale), so that ended pretty soon because of a lot of mistakes. They simply bit off more that they could chew (not to mention that those songs werent performed for quite a while and were only played on DOD tour).

If they chose to rotate simpler songs like BNW, Wicker Man, TETMD and Clairvoyant, I think that it would work very well.

P.S. Dear Iron Maiden, if you replace a song again, why not try Wasted Years? It's a short song and as simple as Wrathchild.

So, let's say they do that:

LOTB Setlist A:

Aces High
WED
2MTM
Clansman
Trooper
Revelations
FTGGOG
Wicker Man
SOTC
Icarus
FOTD
NOTB
IM
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TETMD
Hallowed
RTTH

LOTB Setlist B:

Aces High
WED
2MTM
Clansman
Trooper
Revelations
FTGGOG
Brave New World
SOTC
Icarus
FOTD
NOTB
IM
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The Clairvoyant
Hallowed
RTTH

Apart from BNW being thematically out of place, I doubt that many people would bitch about rotating two songs. If Jan and H can rotate Revelations solo, why can't they rotate 4 songs in two slots, none of which has a significant impact on the stage design.
 
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