Iron Maiden studio album 17 rumours and speculations

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Ziggyplayedguitar said:
The problem with maiden playing an epic is it’s takes a chunk out the set list when they only play 15 songs.

If it was Metallica and played for 2.5 hours it wouldn’t be an issue.
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It's the other way round really, they play 15 songs because the songs are usually long, if they didn't play epics they'd play more songs, the running time of Maiden sets has been fairly consistent since I started going in 1993, while the number of tracks played has varied considerably.

Re: TRATB, I can't see it being played again, but I like the fact that the very average opening 6 mins gives you enough time to run to the jacks/bar and then get back for the excellent instrumental section. Iron Maiden serves the same function if you've already been at a gig on that tour so have already seen the Eddie, beat the rush before the encore.
 
The diversity of TRATB is its undoing. It does have a nice instrumental section. But it's like an entirely different song than the early parts (s). As far as it taking up concert space?.......
It's like ordering a great steak dinner, but you have to eat huge crappy appetizer and bland sugar free dessert in order to enjoy it. Hope to god it doesn't return.
 
Slightly harsh, but yes, I agree it's very disjointed. I stick by the theory that Steve was consciously trying to write the ultimate Maiden song and piling everything in his armoury into it. Then getting upstaged near-effortlessly by Bruce with Empire.
 
I doubt TRATB will ever come back. I saw it live six times and each time it was really good, a surprising highlight. But if it never comes back, that's OK too. TBOS is the real epic I want to hear over and over again. Damn, that song. So good.
 
srfc said:
Re: TRATB, I can't see it being played again, but I like the fact that the very average opening 6 mins gives you enough time to run to the jacks/bar and then get back for the excellent instrumental section. Iron Maiden serves the same function if you've already been at a gig on that tour so have already seen the Eddie, beat the rush before the encore.
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:lol:

Regarding TRATB, the instrumental section is fantastic. The first part of the song, though, is a collection of Steve's clichés and probably features some of the most uninspired melody lines he has written since the reunion. I liked hearing it live (x4 and the instrumental bit was pure magic, especially on the second London gig), but would not mind in the slightest if they never play it again.
 
That was my initial reaction to it, but I later warmed to the first part of the song (up until the whoa-oas). It starts strongly, but just doesn't live up to the promise. It's not bad by any means, it just lacks something.
 
It's the words that I don't like really, or more accurately the syntax and grammar, and expecting Bruce to sing them at that speed at the absolute top of his range.

I'd rate it as the second worst of Steve's solo penned epics. For the Greater good of god being the worst. The rest of his epics are all 10/10

EDIT: spelling of "accurately" corrected LOL
 
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I vastly prefer Greater Good, even if the 'of God' bit sounds an almost comical add-on. Got lots of love for AMOLAD at the moment. I'm regretting never hearing it live and would be chuffed if any of it features in the Legacy tour.
 
Brigantium said:
I vastly prefer Greater Good, even if the 'of God' bit sounds an almost comical add-on. Got lots of love for AMOLAD at the moment. I'm regretting never hearing it live and would be chuffed if any of it features in the Legacy tour.
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The problem with TRATB is that it is poorly structured.

Take Maiden's first 10+ minutes song as an example of how it's done.

It starts with a relatively simple verse, which is repeated, but with different short interludes. And things change before you get tired of it. The "... There, calls the Mariner" comes just at the right time, you were expecting something to change there. And from that point on, new things are introduced at a steady pace. The calm mid-part changes half-way through, right after the spoken part. Then a build-up before the solos, melodic interlude and the song returns to the story.

Then imagine you put the last four minutes before the turning point instead, and then you prolonged the part right before the calm part, and shortened the calm part, and the song finished after the harmonies that follow immediately after the guitar solos.

And add a third guitar playing the vocal line all the way through.

There you have it. Except with less stellar solos and a less interesting story.
 
srfc said:
It's the words that I don't like really, or more accurately the syntax and grammar, and expecting Bruce to sing them at that speed at the absolute top of his range.

I'd rate it as the second worst of Steve's solo penned epics. For the Greater good of god being the worst. The rest of his epics are all 10/10

EDIT: spelling of "accurately" corrected LOL
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For the Greater Good of God pisses all over most of Steve's epics from 1990-2005 and 2007-2017 even though the chorus is not stellar.
 
Brigantium said:
I vastly prefer Greater Good, even if the 'of God' bit sounds an almost comical add-on. Got lots of love for AMOLAD at the moment. I'm regretting never hearing it live and would be chuffed if any of it features in the Legacy tour.
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Both gigs I attended at Earls Court in 2006 are in my Top 5 of Maiden gigs of all time. Great tour.
 
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