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SinisterMinisterX said:
Mangini holds world speed records (or at least did a few years ago). He can play faster with one hand than most people can with two. On that video, there's a spot in the beginning of The Dance Of Eternity - a fast triplet riff that Portnoy needed two hands to play. Mangini did it one handed without even looking.
:o

Portnoy is no novice drummer, so I find this really amazing, considering Mangini probably only learn the material a few weeks before.
 
I dunno he seems like a huge fan. If I was a huge DT fan who happened to play drums, Dance Of Eternity would be one of those songs that I would just have to know.
 
Just watched the first 2 episodes and I'm amazed at how awesome those drummers are.The band seems like pointing at Mangini but there are still 2 drummers to go and you never know.
 
Murder89 said:
Just watched the first 2 episodes and I'm amazed at how awesome those drummers are.The band seems like pointing at Mangini but there are still 2 drummers to go and you never know.

Where are the episodes being posted? I just saw the one linked by Ranko...
 
Nope, the next one is Friday at 17:00 CET (11:00 US Eastern time).

I tend to agree with John Myung - the favorites are Mangini and Minneman, but I'm somehow more inclined towards Minneman after seeing his riff test today, he just rocked the hell out of it.
 
All of these drummers are flawless, but...

I don't like Mangini's behaviour when playing, he's like Lars Ulrich that CAN play drums.

Roddy is amazing, but Dream Theater (or progressive metal) is not for him.

Arnold Schw... ooooops, Thomas Lang ( :D ) is my second favorite out of these. Energetic and precise, and seems like a nice guy.

Virgil Donati is a good drummer, but I don't like his style, particularly the way he holds his left stick. It's so irritating to me. And he talks very funny, I don't think I would've stayed serious if I was talking to him :D

Christian Bale... oh, ooooops again, Marco Minneman rules. Amazing drummer, and seems like a really great guy. I hope he gets chosen.
 
I think it's obviously Mangini. I'm just about to watch 2 though so I'll post my thoughts when It's over.
yeaaa. My money is still on Mangini. But Marco was amazing too. The guys in between were ok.
 
I loved Virgil and Lang's performances the best, especially the way they handled the riff test. But Mike and Marco certainly felt more at home with the band, particularly Mike.
 
I thought Minnemann's riff test was the best so far, but keep in mind that the last two drummers (the ones we haven't yet seen) amazed LaBrie, according to the teaser footage at the end of part 2. If it's true that Minnemann didn't get the job, then it's between Mangini and the last two guys.

P.S. With Portnoy's departure, quite a piece of songwriting duties has fallen on the rest of the members, I wonder if Myung will contribute any lyrics for this album (as it was Portnoy who enforced the rule that lyrics had to came with already developed song arrangements), and if the new drummer will do so. I imagine that it will be quite difficult to write complex lyrics to the non-English-speaking drummers, if any of them had actually gotten the gig. Also, the backing vocals seem to be only Petrucci's responsibility now... Well, at least I hope there will be no cookie monster vocals anymore.
 
I'm really enjoying these documentaries - they make drums seem interesting. Marco Minnemann appears to be the stereotypical boneheaded nutcase drummer, but has fantastic ability. I wish John Myung would give more input though, I thought he didn't have a voice till the end of that episode.

Hopefully they'll get James LaBrie some singing lessons for this next album as well.
 
Ranko said:
P.S. With Portnoy's departure, quite a piece of songwriting duties has fallen on the rest of the members, I wonder if Myung will contribute any lyrics for this album (as it was Portnoy who enforced the rule that lyrics had to came with already developed song arrangements), and if the new drummer will do so. I imagine that it will be quite difficult to write complex lyrics to the non-English-speaking drummers, if any of them had actually gotten the gig. Also, the backing vocals seem to be only Petrucci's responsibility now... Well, at least I hope there will be no cookie monster vocals anymore.

Portnoy is the one who announced the lyric rule to the world, and I don't think he would have done so unless the rest of the band agreed. To say that MP "enforced" any rules is making assumptions; we don't know how the band works (or worked) internally. I doubt MP would have enforced anything unless at least JP had his back.

I don't see how English not being the native language makes a singing problem. Unless their foreign accent would offend you somehow?

Yes, JP is the only known backup singer. But he and MP didn't start singing backup vocals until the FII tour in '97/'98 or so (according to MP in a DVD commentary). So they came out of nowhere as singers... why not the new drummer, or Jordan Rudess? Given Jordan's level of skill, I'm sure he can sing in tune - and quality of voice is less important for backup. Jordan has a lot going on with his keys, but there may be places he could do it if so inclined.

One of the audition songs (A Nightmare To Remember) has MP's most extreme cookie monster vocals. They haven't shown that section on the documentary, I wonder what they did with it. But I think you're going to be right about no more like that... it was definitely perceived by most fans as a MP thing, and I don't think they'd want to try and duplicate it. You might as well ask Jordan to try and sound like Derek Sherinian...
Black Wizard said:
Hopefully they'll get James LaBrie some singing lessons for this next album as well.

LaBrie has been sounding better on every album. The two times I've seen DT ('09 and '10) he was amazing. Reports I've read for the last couple tours have all agreed.

LaBrie is better than ever; he has his full range back, and the struggle of singing through his accident/recovery has forced him to learn how to manage his voice. He rededicated himself to getting better after the Six Degrees tour, at the insistence of the rest of the band. Starting with Live At Budokan, JLB has been in top form.
 
On the subject of Cookie Monster Vocals, are there any songs besides ANTR that have that with Mike?

Also I thought James sounded excellent on the Iron Maiden tour.
 
The Glass Prison
Prophets Of War
The Count Of Tuscany ("I!")
The Dark Eternal Night

I think either Constant Motion or Panic Attack might have some too. I always get those two confused.
 
SinisterMinisterX said:
The Glass Prison
Prophets Of War
The Count Of Tuscany ("I!")
The Dark Eternal Night

I think either Constant Motion or Panic Attack might have some too. I always get those two confused.
I've listened to Constant Motion a bunch of times. I'm pretty sure it's not in there.

Glass Prison? I'll have to listen again.

Also, quick question. Are the two time signatures in 6:00 16/4 and 6/8? I was trying to hear it and that's what I came up with.
 
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