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Death Or Glory

Discussion in 'The Book of Souls' started by SinisterMinisterX, Aug 22, 2015.

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How good is Death or Glory on a scale of 1-10?

  1. 10

    10.9%
  2. 9

    19.6%
  3. 8

    19.6%
  4. 7

    23.9%
  5. 6

    10.9%
  6. 5

    10.9%
  7. 4

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  8. 3

    2.2%
  9. 2

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  10. 1

    2.2%
  1. Severian

    Severian Have a good time, all the time!

    Yes I Agree, It's about the Excitement & Adventure of War. It was fun for von Richthofen and other people like Rommel and Patton loved war they enjoyed it very much. 9 out of 10 maiden songs about war have a very anti-war message (2 minutes to midnight, The Trooper, The Legacy) but it isn't like they haven't portrayed War & Battle this way before (Die With Your Boots On, Flash of the Blade, Aces High)
     
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  2. mckindog

    mckindog Living for Sanctuary from the law Staff Member

    Loosen your ties professors.
     
  3. frus

    frus Barbed Wire Hen

    I expect it WAS fun for Red Baron (from whose point of view the story is told)
     
  4. frus

    frus Barbed Wire Hen

    Sorry Severian, didn't see your post

    Sun and Steel, ...
     
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  5. 7thRunner

    7thRunner Prowler

    Severian and frus,
    you're both right, there have been other songs like this such as Flash Of The Blade and Sun And Steel (which I don't enjoy for the same reason).
    However, I would say that Die With Your Boots on (with lines like "Predicting War for millions in the hope that one appears") has a strong anti-war message. And Aces High gives a gripping account of the pressure and stress the RAF pilots had to endure, but does not include lines like Death Or Glory's "I kill to quench my thirst", which show the bloodlust of the protagonist.
     
  6. frus

    frus Barbed Wire Hen

    Well I guess they (that is, Bruce) thinks the protagonist might have had such a relationship towards the war.
    For instance, the song "Killers" I find much more bloodthirsty and explicit (although it doesn't sound that lightweight). They just like to try to get into someone's head sometimes like that

    Tailgunner is also a lightweight and careless song, (seemingly) also about wartime pilots (although it's a different story altogether)
     
  7. Severian

    Severian Have a good time, all the time!

    You Must Hate Manowar
     
  8. 7thRunner

    7thRunner Prowler

    :funnypost: I don't hate them, but I ignore them.
     
  9. Severian

    Severian Have a good time, all the time!

    I Always thought this meant they hoped a Disaster and Total War does happen, I thought it was about Book of Revelation meaning when the War is over Jesus will return to save everyone so lets get it over with and Die with our boots on
     
  10. frus

    frus Barbed Wire Hen

    I think they were having a go at the "Prophets of disaster", like in Face in the Sand
     
  11. Bombusbombus

    Bombusbombus Nomad

    I just love the shuffle feel on this, can't remember if they've done that before? running free I guess, but is there other songs that slips my mind?
    This was one of the songs I anticipated the least because of the title, thinking it would be another military bravado song, but it turned out to be one very nice little rocker. It's agreat one to hum in your head while working and of course I love the quotes from the baron in the lyrics, brings me back to being 10 years old and reding way too much about planes from wwI/wwII. Good shit.
     
  12. Zeppelin88

    Zeppelin88 Trooper

    I believe Twilight Zone, and Drifter also got a similar shuffle feel. I guess this is the reason Death or Glory reminds me of the old days.
     
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  13. Ranko

    Ranko I'll shoot the gunner first!

    Exactly my sentiments. Also, I love the rhythm of his singing, especially the part when he signs "the book that he wroTTTe". So fun!
     
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  14. Donner

    Donner Ancient Mariner

    I still think the pre-chorus is a lot better than the actual chorus. While I like this song just fine it's another example of Maiden's shorter songs being less worthy (IMO obviously) than the longer numbers.
     
  15. Mosh

    Mosh The years just pass like trains Staff Member

    This one is growing on me. Every time I hear it, I like it a little bit more. It's still not one of my favorites, but a fun little song. A nice breather in between denser songs. Bruce gives a great performance too, one of his best on the album.

    Plus the Adrian Smith slide guitar solo is pretty cool and unique!
     
  16. Gk1

    Gk1 Ancient Mariner

    If there is a weak point here (apart from the production which is not good -in my opinion of course), it is the drumming(sound + playing). In WTRRD , for instance, Nicko is pushing the song forward. Here I feel like he is playing a bit slower than the rest of the band.
     
  17. matic22

    matic22 H is shorter for God.

    Probably it feels to you like this because of swing-like beat. I personally love it, something new...
     
  18. Forostar

    Forostar Conjure the Death Star again

    The drums on this song are much better and tighter than on When The Drums Run Weak.
     
    Last edited: Sep 17, 2015
  19. Gk1

    Gk1 Ancient Mariner

    Fixed that for you!
     
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  20. MrKnickerbocker

    MrKnickerbocker clap hands

    Definitely a grower, but I've come to like it a lot. It is at first overshadowed by the more epic and moody tracks on the album, but like SOL, it's a great, upbeat rocker and Bruce sounds killer.

    I totally agree. I wish Bruce would just embrace that his voice is slightly lower now. Sure, he can still hit the high stuff (and he keeps going for higher stuff because he's a stubborn bastard), but he sounds much better in this range.
     
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