Coronavirus

UK with more than 1,800 deaths today ... :eek: the good news is that number of new cases peaked two weeks ago, so the death numbers should not be expected to rise much more before they start going down. But this wave is hitting very hard.

From Norway, good news as the number of new cases is now down to what it was like in November. Hopefully we can be down to the early October level again soon and stay there until we have vaccinated a lot of people.
 
We're going to have "avondklok" ("evening clock" i.e. curfew) for the first time, perhaps this Friday. Last time "we" had this was in WWII.
A lot of people do not like this.

Personally, I understand it. The measure was advised by a team of medical specialists to the government and it ought to help with trying to get the numbers down.
 
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There's curfew across the river in Quebec, but not here in Ontario, and I don't quite understand the difference. I wish they'd do more in Ontario.
 
There's curfew across the river in Quebec, but not here in Ontario, and I don't quite understand the difference. I wish they'd do more in Ontario.

I'm at the city limits of Berlin. One km away, there are different rules.
 
^ probably due to density, which is OK. I don't think same rules should apply for rural environment.
 
Glad I'm still at home. Half of my office got sent home today to allow a deep clean, as there was a covid case in the building yesterday. They're extending the amount of home working places, so hopefully next time this happens there won't be just a handful of staff left, each picking up the work of ten others.
 
Glad I'm still at home. Half of my office got sent home today to allow a deep clean, as there was a covid case in the building yesterday. They're extending the amount of home working places, so hopefully next time this happens there won't be just a handful of staff left, each picking up the work of ten others.
Can't believe that with the UK numbers so many are still working at the office.
 
Yep. They won't lock down any more strictly, too much fear for the economy. To be fair, I'm talking about essential key workers where I work, but there's no requirement for non-essential businesses to close, only non-essential shops and the hospitality industry. Workplaces are supposed to follow strict rules. Mine is pretty good at that, but I've heard a lot of horror stories about small offices - let alone warehouses, factories and off-grid employment - where social distancing just hasn't crossed their mind at all. It's starting to look more and more like aerosol transmission can't be ignored, though. And workplace Covid-secure rules don't really address aerosol transmission well enough, if at all. There are still too many children in schools, too.

Recent analysis has suggested that the majority of transmission recently has been in supermarkets and schools. I always thought schools drove a lot of the infection rate, I've thought that right from the first wave. They're tightening up on supermarkets, insisting they take more responsibility and not just turn a blind eye to the many claiming a mask exemption on supposed medical grounds. Supermarkets are just too cramped, too busy, and too many people were treating food shopping as a bit of a leisure outing.

Still nobody is sure how much of all this is caused by the new strain of Covid, although the new strain is definitely becoming dominant right across the country. There were a handful of cases recognised in this area a few weeks ago, now they believe it's 65% of cases. Certainly suggests it has an evolutionary advantage! If people infected with the new strain are breathing out much bigger concentrations of the virus, which is what is suspected, it's got to make the likelihood of aerosol transmission higher and maybe raise the risk of surface transmission, just after everyone accepted that wasn't as big a threat as was originally thought.
 
Yes we have curfew because of the danger that came from the west. And all incoming flights from the UK are banned now.

Not sure how this is appreciated (or known), but out here we call the new Covid type: "the British (or English) variant".

And another: the South African variant, which is (still) less talked about.

The funny thing is you call it VOC (Virus of concern), but this abbreviation means this as well:
 
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Yes we have curfew because of the danger that came from the west. And all incoming flights from the UK are banned now.

Not sure how this is appreciated (or known), but out here we call the new Covid type: "the British (or English) variant".

And another: the South African variant, which is (still) less talked about.

That smacks of xenophobia like when people started to refer to coronavirus as the Chinese virus. I am not surprised though.

The new variant is also called something similar in, at least, Spain and France.
 
Recent analysis has suggested that the majority of transmission recently has been in supermarkets and schools. I always thought schools drove a lot of the infection rate, I've thought that right from the first wave.

Have the data been published? So far every scientific piece of evidence I have read did not highlight schools as driving the infection any more than other social interactions, with primary schools being even less responsible for the transmission of the virus.
 
It was part of a news report in the Guardian I think it was. I didn't see the original analysis and wasn't sure how they could tell supermarkets were involved, unless this was from test and trace info.
 
That smacks of xenophobia like when people started to refer to coronavirus as the Chinese virus. I am not surprised though.

The new variant is also called something similar in, at least, Spain and France.
Well, yeah, keep your place clean please and do not export it next time.

Kidding!

I'm afraid it is rather unavoidable, to name it like that. Later this may change who knows. We did NOT use the term Chinese virus here.
Trump did. Covid and Corona are the general terms and the new variant has got to have a clear name I guess.
 
I'm afraid it is rather unavoidable, to name it like that. Later this may change who knows. We did NOT use the term Chinese virus here.
Trump did. Covid and Corona are the general terms and the new variant has got to have a clear name I guess.

I am not saying you did use the term Chines virus; I was just pointing out that both things smack of xenophobia.
 
I am not saying you did use the term Chines virus; I was just pointing out that both things smack of xenophobia.

Sorry, the others names are too complicated/long/just downright ridiculous:

The variant is known by several names. In government and media reports it may be referred to as UK COVID-19 variant, UK coronavirus variant or simply as the UK variant or British variant.[2]

In scientific use the variant had originally been named the first Variant Under Investigation in December 2020 (VUI – 202012/01) by Public Health England,[3][a] but was reclassified to a Variant of Concern (Variant of Concern 202012/01, abbreviated VOC-202012/01) by Meera Chand and her colleagues in a report published by Public Health England on 21 December 2020.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Variant_of_Concern_202012/01#cite_note-6 In a report written on behalf of COVID-19 Genomics UK (COG-UK) Consortium, Andrew Rambaut and his co-authors referred to the variant as lineage B.1.1.7,[5] while Nextstrain dubbed the variant 20I/501Y.V1.[6]
 
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