Your Maiden blasphemy

LooseCannon said:
That's hilarious considering the amount of harmony actually in the song. If it sounds sudden and disconcerting it's intentional. That's part of the masterpiece.
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The Flash said:
Bad choice of words there. You might not like Paschendale, but there's absolutely nothing "unharmonic" on that track. It's a song based on classic heavy metal power chords.
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Gk1 said:
He probably meant that the different music parts consisting the song are not that well-fitting together...or something
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I'm sorry when I don't conform to your ideas of harmony, but to me its just a mess of garbled sounds. It doesn't flow well. And "sudden" and "disconcerting" are antonyms to harmonic in my book. But hey, if you like it and find it harmonic, more power to you. I'm sure there are songs (not necessairly from Maiden) that you would shake your head at.
 
Mega said:
"I don't conform to your ideas of harmony"

You do know harmony is a well established term right? It's an entire field in musical study.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harmony
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Okay this can maybe blamed on language differences, as the general public here upon hearing the word harmony or harmonic has a decidedly less scientific approach to it. So, Paschendale is harmonic, music construct wise (I don't understand nearly enough of music science to prove that). I can live with that.
 
stannar_kvar said:
THAT will be some good reading, I bet!
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I'll give you a hint: it's because the song does exactly what it sets out to do. It's Adrian's greatest contribution, and it's an audio story told so perfectly that when Steve sat down to do the lyrics, he wrote about the same subject matter that Adrian had used to inspire the music - despite not knowing H's intentions.
 
Nice!
I love reading peoples views on songs, why they like them and such, especially if it makes me see the song in another way or for some other reason broadens my experience. Shame I'm not very good at making me write such things myself...
 
Of course!
Even though I think it's a bit too much lyrical details instead of personal feelings. Also there isn't much about the music in itself there. But still a great place!
 
Mrcl said:
"sudden" and "disconcerting" are antonyms to harmonic in my book.
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Harmony has nothing to do with emotion. Harmony is to music what "taste" is to food. Any particular food might taste "good" or "bad" to any particular person, but we'd never say that a "bad" taste is somehow not a taste because it's bad.

In other words, harmony is a quality that music has, and it can be good or bad. I think you're confusing "harmonic" with other aesthetic terms, and what you really mean is "pleasant harmonies". The ugly ones are still harmonies too!

If you want to hear music "without" harmony, go find recordings of medieval ("Gregorian") chant. It's been about a thousand years since that was popular, because (following the taste analogy) it usually sounds horribly bland. Modern harmony has its beginnings in the efforts to make chant interesting.

Music without ugly harmonies would bore most people to tears. If harmony is like taste, then dissonance is spice. Harmonies that never use dissonance are boring; music that overuses dissonance is jarring. Dissonance is never good or bad by itself; like spices or salt, it's all in how you use it.

In other words: to some extent at least, the harmony is supposed to be "disconcerting". It's a song about war, did you expect it to sound like a lullaby?
 
SinisterMinisterX said:
Harmony has nothing to do with emotion. Harmony is to music what "taste" is to food. Any particular food might taste "good" or "bad" to any particular person, but we'd never say that a "bad" taste is somehow not a taste because it's bad.

In other words, harmony is a quality that music has, and it can be good or bad. I think you're confusing "harmonic" with other aesthetic terms, and what you really mean is "pleasant harmonies". The ugly ones are still harmonies too!

If you want to hear music "without" harmony, go find recordings of medieval ("Gregorian") chant. It's been about a thousand years since that was popular, because (following the taste analogy) it usually sounds horribly bland. Modern harmony has its beginnings in the efforts to make chant interesting.

Music without ugly harmonies would bore most people to tears. If harmony is like taste, then dissonance is spice. Harmonies that never use dissonance are boring; music that overuses dissonance is jarring. Dissonance is never good or bad by itself; like spices or salt, it's all in how you use it.

In other words: to some extent at least, the harmony is supposed to be "disconcerting". It's a song about war, did you expect it to sound like a lullaby?
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Good explanation. You're right, in that case I am guilty of severe misuse/misunderstanding of the word harmony. I apologize (but not for my opinion about the song itself).
About the lullaby thing; Yes I did, actually.
 
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