Your Maiden blasphemy

RTC said:
If I remember correctly, the original title of TXF was Blood On The World's Hands.
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I remember that too, although I remember Steve wanting to call it "Bloody World's Hands." Don't know where the interview I read it in was--I used to obsessively collect magazine interviews for scrapbooks, so it's probably in my collection (which is packed away) somewhere. But yikes, "Bloody World's Hands" would've been a goofy stupid title. At least "Blood On the World's Hands" sorta works.
 
nuno_c said:
Not only do i prefer Gangland over Total eclipse, i think Total Eclipse is completely out of place on that album
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Well technically Total Eclipse isn't on the album. :D It was added on when they did the remasters.
 
Mosh said:
Well technically Total Eclipse isn't on the album. :D It was added on when they did the remasters.
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On a side note they actually DID add on the 98 reissues of the first 2 albums "Twiligth Zone" and "Sanctuary" which were only on the American versions of the albums, but for some reason they put Sanctuary as track 2 instead of track 7, and Twilight Zone before the pin-ultimate track instead of track 8. Don't know what that was about, it flowed perfectly well on the original 80-81 US versions.
 
DrRocklml said:
On a side note they actually DID add on the 98 reissues of the first 2 albums "Twiligth Zone" and "Sanctuary" which were only on the American versions of the albums, but for some reason they put Sanctuary as track 2 instead of track 7, and Twilight Zone before the pin-ultimate track instead of track 8. Don't know what that was about, it flowed perfectly well on the original 80-81 US versions.
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Botched job by Rod et al., methinks.
 
Overall i think Kevin's production works better for Iron Maiden than Martin's even though i love both
 
You get a different sense of the album. Martin truly produced albums, composite works that each had a distinctive feel. You can't confuse a song from NotB sessions with a song from Powerslave, just listening to the sound alone.

Shirley does a great job of capturing Maiden's live sound. DoD came out a couple weeks after I saw Maiden that summer, and my first impression was how Wildest Dreams sounded exactly the same as the live show I'd just seen. But he doesn't create the a feel of unique albums; if you swapped around the songs on all but AMOLAD, the new "albums" still feel largely the same. Only on AMOLAD did Shirley achieve that same level of 'complete album feel' that Martin got on every album.
 
SinisterMinisterX said:
...if you swapped around the songs on all but AMOLAD, the new "albums" still feel largely the same.
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"Feel" the same? If, by this, you mean sound the same, then I can't agree with that. All four post-reunion albums sound (whether that's the mix or the studio tone of the guitars, etc) quite different. DoD, that you mention, sounds nothing like BNW &/or TFF.
 
They're not identical but they have similar sounds since a similar approach is taken on each album. If you take any 80s album, they all have a brand new approach that gives it a unique sound. Every reunion album has been done with the intention of capturing the live sound.

I will say though that TFF saw them start to take a step away from that. Sat 15 (obviously) as well as Avalon and Starblind had some sounds -particularly from Adrian Smith- that wouldn't be easily executed live. Which is probably part of why they didn't play those songs.
 
You're missing the point. Yea each album has some little things that sets it apart, but the overall feel is still the same: it's the Iron Maiden live sound captured in studio.
 
SinisterMinisterX said:
You get a different sense of the album. Martin truly produced albums, composite works that each had a distinctive feel. You can't confuse a song from NotB sessions with a song from Powerslave, just listening to the sound alone.

Shirley does a great job of capturing Maiden's live sound. DoD came out a couple weeks after I saw Maiden that summer, and my first impression was how Wildest Dreams sounded exactly the same as the live show I'd just seen. But he doesn't create the a feel of unique albums; if you swapped around the songs on all but AMOLAD, the new "albums" still feel largely the same. Only on AMOLAD did Shirley achieve that same level of 'complete album feel' that Martin got on every album.
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I get your point.

But personally, i don't think that it's bad that Kevin has that kind of production. In a way, it makes the music sound even more natural. The kind of sound he produces with the band reflects Maiden in a pretty pure form.
 
* I think SIT is one of the weaker albums and that heaven can wait is one of the weakest tracks on it
* I like the repeation in the middle of TAatG (the one in the end is a bit much though)
* I'm very tired og every song that starts softly must come back to the same melody in the end (especially tRoBB and the legacy would be miles better if they just stoped before that)
* I can't really enjoy Charlotte le harlot & 22 acacia avenue due to the lyrics, even if I like them musically
* I would really like the band to make shorter records, single vinyl preferebly (I realized that when I took away the songs I prefered less on all the "newer" albums they where as a rule much more enoyeble for me. The only exception where TFF & TXF, the later one I would have liked more as a double album with justice of the peace & judgment day added for some upbet songs to liven things up)

That's some more or less unpopular opinions, I'm sure I can think of more later.
Awesome thread!
 
stannar_kvar said:
The only exception where TFF & TXF, the later one I would have liked more as a double album with justice of the peace & judgment day added for some upbet songs to liven things up)
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Agreed. And, at the time, waiting for three years was terribly long for Maiden standards, and a double LP would have been a great reward.
 
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