Your Maiden blasphemy

Actually, I was just about to say that I'd like to see Bruce put vocal performance ahead of racing about like a loon at times :p Trooper in particular can be awful. Having seen Priest described as pedestrian on stage of late, I have to say I was impressed by the quality of their performance, and felt the lack of showboating was a gamble that paid off their case.
 
mihai said:
This is not a good example. Bruce ended up in blood when he did not take the guitar seriously. :)
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Haha. Anyone know why and how often Bruce ever played guitar on stage with Maiden? That just stood out in my memory from when I saw the PoM concert footage a long time ago.

I know he played guitar live on some of his solo material like Tears of the Dragon.
 
Ariana said:
Bruce has "meddled" with Adrian frequently enough in the past, especially during Wasted Years or during solos. I don't think it has bothered him or messed him up.
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True, but not to the same extent and certainly not as "hands on". But it was never my intention to criticise Adrian or to suggest he can't deal with distraction or is in any other respect lacking (although reading it back now I can see how it might have come across that way. I think the world of Adrian and his abilities - you know that, don't you?). Nor was I trying to imply that the ability to keep playing while Bruce pulls his sweater over your head is a necessary requisit of proper bandcraft. Just that Janick's ability to keep going through just about anything is something special.

If I practiced for several hours a day everyday I might one day be able to play as well as Adrian or Dave. But I'd still be wishing I could play as freely and as instinctively as Janick. What different qualities they all bring. I really think that going with the three guitar lineup was the smartest decision Maiden ever made.
 
From now on at Maiden shows let’s all stand still and be quiet so as not to distract the band.

Or at least don’t be this guy:

 
Black Abyss Babe said:
I really think that going with the three guitar lineup was the smartest decision Maiden ever made.
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Oh yeah, the sound is so heavy and layered with 3 guitarists, and they are all in perfect sync with each other. I love Janick. He is maybe not as smooth as Dave and Adrian, but he has a hard rock "jagged edge" to his playing that I like. And I don't mind his dancing and antics. It's just how he expresses all the energy that is running through his being.
 
Diesel 11 said:
I can accept when I'm wrong
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But can you? You insist others are wrong when they disagree with you, but then walk it back to “it’s not half as bad as you say” or “it’s all subjective” when you’re shown to be wrong. You also engage in non-sequiturs like claiming I’m not ready to hear an opposing point of view just because a number of people have disagreed with me. Huh? How would the actions of others reflect anything about my own motivations?
how is sloppiness proven beyond a shadow of a doubt, and not merely in the ears of the listener?
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How can you tell when someone’s writing is sloppy?

- Thi s sentans iS sl0opy..
- This sentence is not.

It’s obvious at a glance, and most people can intuit it right away. But if you want to be anal, you can set objective measurements and test it. A non-sloppy sentence will have correct spelling, grammar, capitalization, and punctuation. It may say any number of things, and there are variant forms that are all valid, but when it breaks certain rules it’s obvious, and measurably so.

As discussed earlier, sloppy guitar playing would include missed notes, extra notes, playing noticeably off-rhythm, botched harmony, and any number of other obvious faux pas. It might be intentional, or it might reflect a lack of technical skill or focus. As above, if you want to get anal you could call out how many milliseconds off the beat you’d have to be before the average person could tell you’re uncomfortably off. You could cite notes that are hit along with a chord that have no musical relationship to the chord being played. You could define it down to as absurd a level of detail as you’d like and it would all be measurable and objective, if that’s what it would take for you to accept it.

But I doubt that you actually care about any of this, because your only goal appears to be blindly casting stones at me to defend Janick’s honor, rather than having an honest conversation. That’s certainly your prerogative, but I’m not interested in continuing a one-sided conversation beyond this point. Enjoy your slop.
 
srfc said:
Maybe some people find text book paint by numbers solos boring, you seem to be implying that they are objectively wrong for doing so.
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Your straw man argument is in serious need of some brains. Perhaps it could follow the yellow brick road to get a diploma from @Black Wizard ? :p
 
I’d like to reply to this, but I’m too tired and you’re throwing just as many stones at me as you seem to think I was at you. Never mind. I still don’t see how any of what you said makes Janick a sloppy player in studio, but now that we’ve got the perameter on what sloppiness itself is, we can go from there.
 
Collin said:
The Man Who Would Be King is better than all of The X Factor.
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Saphrax said:
Oh and I agree that TMWWBK > the X Factor
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Finally some real blasphemy around!

More seriously though, I definitely get that The X-Factor does not appeal to everyone, but I wouldn't rate The Man Who Would be King above all or most of it. Then again, I'm not one of the biggest TMWWBK haters either; I like the outro and the arrangement; there are lot of interesting elements and ideas around, but the execution and overall flow of the song is a bit too disjointed and clumsy and the chorus is very anti-climatic.
 
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