Your Maiden blasphemy

KidInTheDark666

What's yours is mine and what's mine is mine too
'Several' epics that are better than Rime, 7th Son and Sign of the Cross? Im intrigued.
Yeah, let me list them.
Hallowed
Alexander the Great
Fear of the Dark (debatable if this counts as an epic)
Blood Brothers (also debatable)
Dream of Mirrors
The Thin Line Between Love and Hate
No More Lies
Dance of Death
Paschendale
Brighter Than A Thousand Suns
Benjamin Breeg (debatable)
For the Greater Good Of God
Lord of Light
The Legacy
Isle of Avalon
Starblind
The Talisman
The Red and The Black
The Book of Souls
Empire of the Clouds

Yes, a terrible opinion, I know. I'll log out right away.
 
Revelations in Live After Death is too fast and it doesn't fit the lyrics. I guess Steve's the one to blame for this.

Powerslave is their worst album among the first seven.

Anyone who blames Wasting Love because it's a radio friendly song has clearly never listened to Can I Play with Madness. To say one.

The Unbeliever has one of their best solo sections ever.

Janick's solo in Paschendale is the best out of the three because it perfectly fits the atmosphere of the song. Way better than both Dave's and Adrian's.

Dave Murray is a great guitar player as far as it concerns solos and harmonies. He's not that great in rhythm sections, though.
 

Ascendingthethrone

Educated Fool
Now that's a blasphemy.
I would place it 6th. Just above Iron Maiden. I like Poweslave but it is just an onslaught of riffs and guitars without any real concern for light and shade. There are some rest-bite moments like the middle of the title track and Mariner. However, most of it just bores me.
 

Ruflux

Ancient Mariner
Powerslave to me really feels like an album with a lot of compositions rather than songs. Lots of intricate music and arrangements, but only half of them are strong songs. Even out of the four that I consider good, one has some pretty bad vocal lines (Aces High) and the other largely survives on the strength of its source material (you should probably be able to guess which one this is).

Even those two have a lot of interesting music that almost overshadows the lyrical content, and a song like The Duellists basically lives entirely on the strength of its instrumental sections. Which I think are cool but way too overlong, so yeah. I would argue even the tracks Bruce worked on have the same issue (curiously enough), but in the case of Powerslave and 2MTM, the complete package is still good enough that the barrage of great riffs and solos and Powerslave's harmony section isn't enough to overshadow the vocals. Helps that the lyrics are very strong, of course.
 
To me, Powerslave = first three tracks and the title track.

Aces High is a killer opener, and the solo duel is what made me fall in love with Iron Maiden (especially Dave's legato section in his solo).
2 Minutes to Midnight is one of those classics nearly everyone knows. One of the first IM songs I listened to. I think it's a good song and one of their heaviest riffs.
Losfer Words is an overall good song, but not as good as Genghis Khan. Maybe the worst instrumental out of the three they made (Ides to me is too different, I can't count it among the "instrumentals").
The title track I regard as the best song on the album.

The others:
Flash of the Blade is, to me, one of the worst songs in the "classic era".
Regarding Duellists I agree with @Ruflux, it survives thanks to the instrumental section. Also, awful vocal line in the verses. "Classic era" The Unbeliever.
Back in the Village has their best opening riff, but the song is nothing special to me.
Rime is basically a nearly 14 minutes march which repeats the same gallop half the song. And yes, the lyrics are great, but it's because Harris summarized the original poem tracing it almost word by word.


Even Killers, which I consider a good album but kinda fluctuating between the "debut" Iron Maiden and the future Iron Maiden, I would rank higher than Powerslave.
Fortunately, two years later they made their best record (to me).
 

chaosapiant

Ancient Marinade
I have a new opinion about a thing I hadn't really thought about before...I prefer the studio version of Can I Play With Madness and Wasted Years to any live version I've heard (including hearing both in person). Both are my least favorite songs from their respective albums, though still very strong tracks. But it seems that choruses where the "weight" of it depends on the vocal harmonies, they don't seem to connect live. They're still good songs, but I dunno..just something about them. Maiden's live vocal harmonies have never been super good, but on most songs, they are good enough to give the choruses some width where it counts. On these two tracks, it sounds like two or three people are each singing out of tune with one another.

Am I the only one to feel this way?
 

Randalf

Ancient Mariner
I have a new opinion about a thing I hadn't really thought about before...I prefer the studio version of Can I Play With Madness and Wasted Years to any live version I've heard (including hearing both in person). Both are my least favorite songs from their respective albums, though still very strong tracks. But it seems that choruses where the "weight" of it depends on the vocal harmonies, they don't seem to connect live. They're still good songs, but I dunno..just something about them. Maiden's live vocal harmonies have never been super good, but on most songs, they are good enough to give the choruses some width where it counts. On these two tracks, it sounds like two or three people are each singing out of tune with one another.

Am I the only one to feel this way?
To some extent, I agree! I think Wasted Years is a very powerful live song, I think the chorus does lack some of the punch every now and then. Then again, it's has one of the more impactful and emotional sing-along choruses.

However, one of my favourite moments from Maiden live recordings is from Wasted Years '99. It's fucking powerful and dynamic moment. There's so much energy in that version and they handle the high tempo very well. Beautiful solos and then, the chorus kicks in... and huge part of the effect is that Adrian doesn't join straight away. Bruce doing the first "SO UNDERSTAAND..." alone sounds so great. And then, Adrian joining in for the repeat beefs it up nicely and makes the song "grow" even at very last moments.


Of course, it's neat when Bruce gave Adrian some spotlight over the more recent performances ("ADRIAN!"), but in many ways, there's a some very unique, raw power in the Ed-Huntour performances and perhaps the song captured the vibe of the whole reunion process very well. Don't waste your time searching for those wasted years etc.

So yeah, while I love the live versions of it, the chorus tends to get a bit messy every now and then. That's why I love the '99 versions of it so much, where it doesn't get too "playful" - as heart-warming as that element from the 2008-2017 performances is, anyway.
 

Kalata

Out of the Silent Planet
I have a new opinion about a thing I hadn't really thought about before...I prefer the studio version of Can I Play With Madness and Wasted Years to any live version I've heard (including hearing both in person). Both are my least favorite songs from their respective albums, though still very strong tracks. But it seems that choruses where the "weight" of it depends on the vocal harmonies, they don't seem to connect live. They're still good songs, but I dunno..just something about them. Maiden's live vocal harmonies have never been super good, but on most songs, they are good enough to give the choruses some width where it counts. On these two tracks, it sounds like two or three people are each singing out of tune with one another.

Am I the only one to feel this way?
I think the blasphemy here is that ''Wasted Years'' is your least favorite song from SIT.

Btw, the studio version of ''Wasted Years'' is perfect. The chorus of CIPWM is great in studio, but it's also good live.
 

MindRuler

Educated Fool
My blasphemy: Paschendale. Not the worst song on Dance Of Death but I'm not a huge fan of it either.
The instrumental section of Quest For Fire is pure Maiden greatness and I never understand why so much people consider this among the worst Maiden songs. Other songs often named as weak but favourites of mine: Hooks In You, The Educated Fool,...
 

chaosapiant

Ancient Marinade
I think the blasphemy here is that ''Wasted Years'' is your least favorite song from SIT.

Btw, the studio version of ''Wasted Years'' is perfect. The chorus of CIPWM is great in studio, but it's also good live.
Eh, Wasted Years is a great track...but all the other tracks on that album stand head and shoulders above it. That is such a powerful album, especially vocally. Probably one of my favorite vocal performances from Bruce along with Powerslave, and Matter of Life and Death.
 

Black Bart

Ancient Mariner
What I'm about to show you is insanely blasphemous. Get your pitchforks ready...

I got the master tracks of Seventh Son of a Seventh Son and made a version of it WITHOUT synths:


I always wanted to hear a version without synths and couldn't find any so gave it a go myself.
This way, some moments make the song sound like a distant cousin to "To Tame A Land". What remains very different from the sound of PoM though, is the excess of reverb, especially on the voice.

The only part where the absence of keyboards can be really felt in just before the final harmonies (when the pyro accompanies the "ah-ah"s live).

Anyway, great work @take no pensioners ! :ok:
 
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