Most conservatives could care less what someone's skin color or sexual preference is, but they're sick of having it crammed down their throats 24/7. I shouldn't walk into a store and see bikinis with "tuck pouches" for penises, in the freaking kids section of all places. It's disgusting, and it's madness. If a dude wants to chop it off and pretend to live as a woman, that's his right, but to scream bloody murder when someone doesn't address him as his preferred pronoun is absolute insanity.
The ones "cramming it down" everyone's throat 24/7
are the conservatives and right wing media. The members of the LGBTQ community want to live their lives in peace, like every other person as well, but right wingers need to push the culture war, so they keep attacking them and making stuff up about them.
The bikinis with "tuck pouches" were only for adults, so +1 for another objectively incorrect statement that you were fed by the media you consume to keep you angry, that you never checked to see if it was true.
"A dude chopping it off" is such an ignorant take. Let's flip it to trans men, since this proves how ridiculous insisting on going by pre-transition pronouns really is. Do you genuinely think it is appropriate to use female pronouns for any of these individuals:
If I hadn't told you that all three of them were assigned female at birth you'd never doubt for a second that they are men. Hormone Replacement Therapy is incredibly effective and there's a reason the medical community world wide understands that biology is far more complicated than what you learned in school. If you called any one of them a "she", people would rightfully think you're insane, ridiculous and confused.
Also, it goes back to basic respect. If someone tells you they're called John, you won't go "nah, I'll keep calling you Kevin, you look like a Kevin to me". You'll respect what they told you; well, unless you want to deliberately be an asshole about it. Same thing with someone's pronouns. First of all, you don't need pronouns when you address an individual themselves. Secondly, do you even know any trans individuals? When do you ever need to use their pronouns? This is why the previously raised "liberals are so mean to us" point is ridiculous, when some can't even do the bare minimum to respect a trans person.
Or let's have trans "women" use the women's restroom and molest little girls, that's ok, too, right? How about biological men competing in women's sports and (obviously) completely destroying them? This is the crap that Kamala and her ilk support. I don't know a single woman who is okay with this, yet many will proudly vote for Kamala because "at least she's not that disgusting pig TRUMP!!1" It's madness. TDS is real.
Add these to the list of
objectively incorrect statements not only not supported by any data but actually completely contradicted.
Let's look at some facts, instead of feelings and lies, shall we?
Trans individuals are far more likely to be victims of assault compared to cis women. Not only that, the majority of rapes are done by
cis men, not by trans women. Furthermore,
sexual violence is very often committed by acquintances or even family members, not by strangers and certainly not in public restrooms. By the way, do you have two separate bathrooms, one for men and one for women at your house? Didn't think so. Do you always think about the genitalia of strangers when you enter a public restroom? I certainly don't. So, in summary, your claim about trans women (quit with the questionmarks, transphobia is not tolerated on the forum) is wrong, unfounded and a flat out lie.
Moving on to sports, time for more facts and statistics! Trans athletes have been able to compete in the Olympics for 20 years. Other competitions have been allowing trans athletes as well. Every now and then a trans athlete does well, but overall there is no evidence or data to support the claim that they are "completely destroying women". This domination is a myth, no,
a lie.
Let's look at one of the more popular examples used by those advocating against trans women competing with cis women, despite this particular example disproving their entire point. I'm sure the media you consume has reported on
Lia Thomas, a trans woman who already set records and was an exceptional swimmer prior to her transition, whose performance worsened when she started transitioning but kept competing with men, and who once again became a great swimmer once her transition was far enough along and she met the requirements to participate with cis women.
In the span of one competition Lia won
a single time. She also placed
fifth in another race and
eighth in a third race. That's it. She didn't place in the rest and didn't set a single record. In this competetion a total of 27 all-time NCAA records were broken.
18 out of those 27, in other words
two thirds of the broken records were set by single indivual: Kate Douglass, a
cis woman. So not only did Lia, the trans swimmer not dominate or break any records, the person who actually dominated the competition and "destroyed" the other contestants was a
cis swimmer!
The anecdote that you don't know any women who support any of that is meaningless, as would be my anecdote that I know a ton of women who support trans rights, trans indiviuals and trans women competing with cis women.
That's what's so incredibly frustrating about debating with conservatives. You list a bunch of demonstrably false and objectively untrue statements without any evidence or citation, and I have to spend so much more time on debunking all the lies. It's exhausting, but apparently also necessary, lest you manage to mislead people with these lies.
Statues of Confederate generals are part of our country's history, and going out of the way to remove them because they're "offensive" to certain parties is completely unnecessary. Guess what? Black Americans owned slaves, too.
Don't shift the goalposts. The Confederacy literally waged war against the United States. They were traitors
per definition. Should traitors have statues out in the open? Or rather in museums and history books, where they actually belong?
There are a small percentage of police officers who should absolutely be removed from duty, and in some cases have criminal charges filed against them. However, the majority are hard-working people who simply want to keep the country safe and make sure those responsible for crimes are apprehended.
We are in agreement here. That's what the left wants,
accountability. They want the corrupt officers to face punishment and consequences, instead of being shielded by their unions.
The "defunding the police" movement is supported by Kamala, which equates to less officers on the street, essentially giving criminals the green light to commit more crimes.
Harris does not "support defund the police". Furthermore, the second part of your claim here is entirely unsupported by evidence and just a fantasy. Newsflash:
Police does
not meaningfully
stop crime. They mostly just react to calls. Even then the majority of their work doesn't even deal with "criminals" in the sense you are implying, the vast majority of cases are not violent ones. As for the defunding, it doesn't mean what you think it does. The movement calls for allocating the money differently, for better training. The majority of police operations does not require armed officers and in fact the presence of guns has often led to unnecessary fatalities by untrained officers.
And then what? Hire unarmed social workers to go on dangerous domestic violence calls? Yeah, that's gonna work out well.
Quit the strawmen. Let's talk about things that
are happening, like the fact that armed officers have repeatedly killed innocent civillians who were going through some kind of mental health crisis, which would've been prevented by trained professional social workers. This is supported by data from different countries that actually employ such strategies.
Also, unless I missed it, I see no one responded to my comments about the far-left prosecutors who constantly let criminals walk but will prosecute victims for defending themselves. These individuals do this for no reason other than to sow chaos and division amongst the people, which is exactly what the man who appointed them (George Soros) wants.
And now we're back to nonsensical conspiracies. Start sourcing your claims and provide evidence, otherwise there's no point in engaging with your claims. As we're seeing in this and your previous comment, you tend to post
a lot of misinformation and objectively wrong statements.
These are all examples of how the left has gone far too far. As for leftist (read: progressive) politicians, surely you're aware of The Squad? Starring Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (AOC), Rashida Tlaib, and Ilhan Omar (among others), this dangerous group of socialists/communists has been pushing their progressive ideals on the US for far too long. How they were even elected is beyond me.
Progressive and leftist are two different things. The Squad is progressive but not leftist, but I'm seeing that you don't even know the basic definitions of words and are throwing around "socialist" and "communist" without care, so what's the point? AOC is a Democratic Socialist, which is different from a Socialist, but it's not like you care, right? Also, pointing at a
tiny minority of at most 9 individuals as a sign of US politics being dominated by the left is simply embarrassing.
Regarding abortion, my views are far less conservative than others, as I believe women should have access to it throughout the first trimester. But after that? Hard no. Live birth abortions? That's outright murder, and I don't know how it can be spun any other way.
Live birth abortion is not a thing. That does not happen. Abortion, per definition, is the termination of a pregnancy. No one aborts in the last weeks, unless it would pose serious harm to the mother and kill her. Or if the infant is already dead and would cause a sepsis.
I know you will mostly ignore all this, roll your eyes at all the links that prove you were wrong on almost all claims you made and you'll just pretend this never happened, that I lied and that I'm just a delusional leftist. I'm sure you're familiar with Ben Shapiro's little catch phrase:
Facts don't care about your feelings. You seem to have fallen down some kind of rabbit hole and have been blinded by the lies and populism shared by the media you choose to consume. You were deceived by misinformation and started believing in lies that not only have no evidence to support them, but are often the exact opposite of what's happening in reality. If you take the time in the next few days to respond to any of this I hope you'll provide some sources, otherwise you can just as well let it be; it's an enormous waste of time and far too exhausting to refute all of the unsourced bullshit, only to be met with more lies.
