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It was a fantastic episode. I thought it was absolutely brilliant to have a politician for 3 hours talking freely about anything, no pre-cooked BS questions no pre-prepared same ol'politicians' BS answers.
I never watched a full episode of Rogan before but I will surely do in the future.
Rogan is a certified moron and Trump is a senile nazi. How any grown adult could listen to them and think "that's just the thing for me" I'll never understand.
 
Rogan is a certified moron and Trump is a senile nazi. How any grown adult could listen to them and think "that's just the thing for me" I'll never understand.

Well I'm not expert on Rogan but he created something worthy in my opinion. And frankly I didn't noticed anything moronic in his talk. Trump is many things and I would think he is autocratic and dangerous back in 2016, but even then I never thought he's a nazi.
My opinion for Trump got way better after the Biden experience.
 
I'll guarantee that those who advocate isolationism and cutting off funding to foreign nations would make an exception for Israel.
Actually, Israel would be the first to get cut off for me. That’s even before mainstream news outlets were picking up on them blowing those kids to smithereens.

You know, the first thing Trump is gonna do when he gets into office is sign another 95 bajillion dollar aid package to Israel, and for me, that’s mad tragic, and I don’t like that, but I gotta take the good with the bad here. Trump being elected, which is my preferred scenario, would be funny. It’d be funnier than Kamala getting into office. Plus it would make liberals mad, which is also funny. I remember under Trump, groceries and gas were pretty low, as was the price of housing. If we can get there again, hell I’m for it.

Kamala probably will win, I don’t deny it, which would be mad tragic, but it’s so far outside of my control that, regardless of outcome, it’s just gonna be another day for me. Would be funny if Trump wins, I will be pulling for the big man.
 
Well I'm not expert on Rogan but he created something worthy in my opinion. And frankly I didn't noticed anything moronic in his talk. Trump is many things and I would think he is autocratic and dangerous back in 2016, but even then I never thought he's a nazi.
My opinion for Trump got way better after the Biden experience.
There is nothing moronic about Joe Rogan; he’s incredibly common sense. As for Trump, he’s obviously not a Nazi or a fascist, but the Democratic Party (and the media they’ve corrupted) will say anything to prevent him from being elected. Hell, they’ve even tried to take him out twice already.

It’s funny to me how the Democrats ramble on about how “the future of our democracy is at stake if big bad Trump is elected,” yet they installed someone as a presidential candidate who was not voted in, which is, you know, the opposite of democracy. I can’t stand Joe Biden, but part of me actually feels sorry for him since Nancy Pelosi and other scum kicked him to the curb.

During Trump’s presidency we enjoyed no wars, secure borders, lower crime, and affordable… everything. But he’s a Nazi and a fascist because, you know, “mean” tweets.
 
But he’s a Nazi and a fascist because, you know, “mean” tweets.
This is an incredibly reductive comment from someone whose opinion I would normally take quite seriously.

It’s not about mean tweets, it’s about the evidence of his plethora of criminal behaviors (all public record, check out the indictments and convictions to date) and direct commentary from people who worked for him throughout his first administration. Even if you reach a different conclusion than those grand juries, regular juries, cabinet members, and formal advisors did, you can’t pretend there isn’t a credible argument to be made on that front.
 
It’s not about mean tweets, it’s about the evidence of his plethora of criminal behaviors (all public record, check out the indictments and convictions to date) and direct commentary from people who worked for him throughout his first administration. Even if you reach a different conclusion than those grand juries, regular juries, cabinet members, and formal advisors did, you can’t pretend there isn’t a credible argument to be made on that front.
In before the, "those public records are fake and so are any evidence, interviews or court documents that report negativity about Trump because.....CONSPIRACIES" replies.

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During Trump’s presidency we enjoyed no wars, secure borders, lower crime, and affordable… everything. But he’s a Nazi and a fascist because, you know, “mean” tweets.
I think there is room for a lot of debate and am open to hearing your perspective on these things. I have a lot of respect for you and James as longtime posters/people whose music takes I've enjoyed reading over the years. It's a bummer that you would reduce opposing views to this when you know that there are a lot of smart people on this board who are capable of critical thinking and have serious concerns/credible arguments against Trump.
 
As a rabid anti-Trumper, I don't believe Trump is a Nazi. Trump respects the hell out of people like Hitler, though. Not for his beliefs, but for his ability to claim power, to influence people, to have the grip of history in his hands. He admires the hell out of it and strives to be like Hitler every day.
 
There is nothing moronic about Joe Rogan; he’s incredibly common sense. As for Trump, he’s obviously not a Nazi or a fascist, but the Democratic Party (and the media they’ve corrupted) will say anything to prevent him from being elected. Hell, they’ve even tried to take him out twice already.

It’s funny to me how the Democrats ramble on about how “the future of our democracy is at stake if big bad Trump is elected,” yet they installed someone as a presidential candidate who was not voted in, which is, you know, the opposite of democracy. I can’t stand Joe Biden, but part of me actually feels sorry for him since Nancy Pelosi and other scum kicked him to the curb.

During Trump’s presidency we enjoyed no wars, secure borders, lower crime, and affordable… everything. But he’s a Nazi and a fascist because, you know, “mean” tweets.

The hearing of the head of secret service made me quite suspicious but it's difficult to claim that there was a straight conspiracy to actually kill him. But for sure, if they hadn't shout for years how he is a dictator and Hitler and the death of democracy there wouldn't be three (I think there's another one after the golf) assassination attempts against him.

Regarding your second point I agree and it's even worse. Recently Hilary said something about censorship in order not to loose control and nobody blinked.

As for your third point I also agree. Regarding borders it's crazy. I heard that California voted a law that it's not allowed to ask for id to someone who votes, how crazy is that. Then you immediately know what is all about.
Obviously you've been ironic in the end and I don't see why this backlash from others since we all pretty much agree that he is not a Nazi.
I think it's what Knicker said and this doesn't make him a Nazi.

He just said that he wants his staff to be like Hitlers generals.

This doesn't make him a Nazi. And I'd say he has some balls to dare saying something like this quite honest and anti-PC. We need more like him, meaning out of the box people, in politics.
 
This doesn't make him a Nazi. And I'd say he has some balls to dare saying something like this quite honest and anti-PC. We need more like him, meaning out of the box people, in politics.
Except he said it in private and seems to deny saying things like this when asked about it. I agree with you that if this is honestly what he thinks he should say it publicly to the American people, but it doesn't seem like he wants to.
 
I think there is room for a lot of debate and am open to hearing your perspective on these things. I have a lot of respect for you and James as longtime posters/people whose music takes I've enjoyed reading over the years. It's a bummer that you would reduce opposing views to this when you know that there are a lot of smart people on this board who are capable of critical thinking and have serious concerns/credible arguments against Trump.
My comments were not directed at anyone on this board, but rather are due to opinions that I've heard from various leftists over the years. I am open for debate as well, as I know many people have concerns and arguments regarding Trump. Believe me, I have just as many regarding Harris and her handlers. But when I've heard countless individuals on the left say things like "I just can't stand Trump's personality, I would never vote for him," surely you can understand my frustrations.

I could care less about Trump's personality. I'm not having a beer with the guy. I'm looking at 2017 to 2020 and comparing them to 2021 to now, and myself and everyone I know was far better off in that time span. Better economy. Secure borders. No wars (now there's two, with possibly another very soon). Lower crime rate (much in part due to fewer Soros-appointed prosecutors who let criminals walk and prosecute victims who defend themselves and bystanders who step up to help). No men allowed in women's sports. The list goes on...

The hearing of the head of secret service made me quite suspicious but it's difficult to claim that there was a straight conspiracy to actually kill him. But for sure, if they hadn't shout for years how he is a dictator and Hitler and the death of democracy there wouldn't be three (I think there's another one after the golf) assassination attempts against him.
Yep, and there have been numerous Democrats (Biden among them) who have spat dangerous rhetoric about "putting targets on Trump" and the like, some of which had to walk back their words. But sadly the damage was done, and some nutbags took it to heart.

Recently Hilary said something about censorship in order not to loose control and nobody blinked.
Exactly. Hillary, her husband, the Obamas, and the rest of the Democrat leaders are terrified of losing control, and they'll stop at nothing to hold onto it. This isn't just Democrats, either; look at how George W. Bush and the Cheneys refuse to support Trump and back Kamala. They're part of the same swamp, the one-party system that controls the country.

Trump's biggest mistake as president was not realizing how deep the corruption went. Now the left controls the DOJ, which is extremely dangerous - it makes them almost invincible. If Trump wins, the heads of these agencies will all lose their jobs (or worse), which terrifies them.

Regarding borders it's crazy. I heard that California voted a law that it's not allowed to ask for id to someone who votes, how crazy is that. Then you immediately know what is all about.
This is true. Gavin Newsom is a snake who has run Kalifornia into the ground. It wasn't enough that he set the stage to turn San Francisco into the dump it is today, but now, after somehow being voted in as governor, he's allowing illegals to vote. It's election interference on the highest level.
 
Oh boy, the nonsensical and mostly already debunked right-wing talking points have arrived. How fun.

Also, voting based on which groups get mad, while also admitting to not being educated on the basic positions of the party you're voting for. Yikes.
 
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There is nothing moronic about Joe Rogan; he’s incredibly common sense.
Probably the funniest statement in your entire comment. Rogan is the opposite of common sense. He flip-flops on issues, has no integrity (criticized Biden for saying something outrageous, even though Biden never said that; Trump did. Once corrected he simply moved on instead of criticizing Trump in the same way), has promoted multiple debunked conspiracies including his factually inaccurate antivax stances.

As for Trump, he’s obviously not a Nazi or a fascist, but the Democratic Party (and the media they’ve corrupted) will say anything to prevent him from being elected. Hell, they’ve even tried to take him out twice already.
Is it necessary to lie so brazenly? The first shooter was a Republican, not a Democrat. He was staunchly conservative. Trump's own side is attacking him, but hey, let's blame Democrats! The second shooter didn't even shoot; by that metric conservatives have tried to take out Obama and Biden as well, because the truth is that every president deals with situations like that constantly. What was notable about the first shooting was that the Secret Service fucked up royally and a Republican tried to kill Trump. Let's stick to facts instead of making shit up.

It’s funny to me how the Democrats ramble on about how “the future of our democracy is at stake if big bad Trump is elected,” yet they installed someone as a presidential candidate who was not voted in, which is, you know, the opposite of democracy. I can’t stand Joe Biden, but part of me actually feels sorry for him since Nancy Pelosi and other scum kicked him to the curb.
This is a pretty tired and impotent line of attack. The DNC gets to decide who the candidate is. Harris got all the necessary delegates lightning fast, as well as numerous endorsements including from conservative figures.

During Trump’s presidency we enjoyed no wars
Sure, but life's not as simple as this statement implies. The current iteration of the Gaza conflict was directly impacted by decisions of Trump's admin, like moving the US embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem.

secure borders
Yet Trump explicitly had the GOP block a bipartisan border bill because it would hurt him politically.

lower crime
That's not true. Crime overall is decreasing and has been doing so, with minor irregularities like 2020 due to covid for example, for literal decades.

and affordable… everything
Hmm, if only there were global events that influence economy as well. Economists have looked at Trump's proposed economic policies (well, those that give any details instead of vague promises) and pretty much all of them agree that those would be disastrous for the economy. There's a reason why for multiple decades Democrats have been objectively better for the economy than Republicans.

But he’s a Nazi and a fascist because, you know, “mean” tweets.
What a strawman. No one says that. He's called fascist because of things like Project 2025 and because of the people he is courting, the people he is working with. Despite trying to distance himself from P25, he is deepyl intertwined with it and a huge chunk of his previous admin is directly connected to it. Trump's former chief of staff described him as fascist, due to what he actually says, what he stands for and what he promises. Personally, I don't think Trump is a Neonazi; he only cares about himself, he doesn't seem to care about these ideologies. That is a distinction without a difference though, because he is more than happy to enact fascist policies to achieve his personal goals.
 
Lower crime rate (much in part due to fewer Soros-appointed prosecutors who let criminals walk and prosecute victims who defend themselves and bystanders who step up to help). No men allowed in women's sports. The list goes on...

Re: Soros conspiracy theories,

How do you feel about the actual richest man in the world effectively running Trump's campaign and bribing people to vote?
 
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