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Yax said:
My soul weeps for where the world is at. I say it again, Western civilization and democracy peaked 20 years ago and has been on a slope ever since. Bit by bit, meter by meter it is eroding until we're eventually left with what we've been fighting against for 100 years.
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With Trump's last move now being to try convincing Republican state congress members to order the state's electors to vote for Trump based on the same bullshit that the courts are turning down on a daily basis - how come there aren't more GOP politicians who tell him that "Mr President, that's just not how we do it in the United States"

What explains this cowardice? OK, Trump's a moron, but the lack of people with the guts to tell him in public that he's wrong ... sickening. Are there only a handful of Republican politicians who still have balls? Have they all sacrificed theirs to Trump?
 
Dr. Eddies Wingman said:
What explains this cowardice?
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A complete lack of character combined with oversized political ambition. People who still call themselves Republicans these days have basically abandoned core American principles and only care about the accumulation and retention of power.
 
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Maybe they (as in the elected officals supporting Trump in this coup, by staying silent) should start to wear the "Repugnants" tag instead.
 
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Dr. Eddies Wingman said:
Trump's a moron
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I don't think he is - that's what makes it so frightening. He's absolutely not stupid, he really is this nasty, narcissist, vain and arrogant (always assuming he is actually sane). If there is any legally possible tactic or loophole which might allow him to cling on to power then I don't think he will care if it's immoral and against every principle America has: he will try it.
 
Dr. Eddies Wingman said:
Perhaps I should've stated he's acting like a moron.
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Georgia has ratified the election result after a recount, does this mean the deadline for the campaigns to request another recount has passed? Or can the Trumpeones still request it? (I know rhey could request it after the initial count, due to the narrow margin).
 
The last hope they have is if the Georgia electors decide to vote against the will of the populace (this won’t happen).
 
Mosh said:
The last hope they have is if the Georgia electors decide to vote against the will of the populace (this won’t happen).
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I guess that's what Trump is (pretending to be) trying in Michigan as well. I just wonder why they're doing that in Michigan, which is not the most closely contested state? Is it just a petty attempt to get back at the Democrat governor after she (rightly, in my opinion) blamed Trump's rhetorics for the kidnap plot against her? Or is it because the GOP has the majority in the state legislature, so that Trump's attempt to turn it at least will have some credibility in the eyes of the most hardcore fans?
 
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Does anyone know why Trump is so keen to get to the Supreme Court? I mean, to get his fatuous claims looked at again after the lower courts have thrown them out, wouldn't he need to produce significant new evidence, and be able to demonstrate that is was actually new? And if it was known that he had that evidence before and deliberately hadn't presented it, wouldn't that harm his case? Also how does contempt of court work in America?

It seems to me that Trump is playing a very strange game but I don't really understand how the American legal system works - anyone who does, your insight would be very much appreciated here. Thanks!
 
So basically, the thinking is the SCOTUS, divided by ideology, would vote to secure a Trump presidency over a Biden presidency. You can appeal dismissals but generally the higher courts just go, nah. That's what's happening here. There's no lawsuits gaining any traction that would impact the outcome of the election.
 
Perhaps he thinks that this works just like his shady business. He has appointed three of the nine judges in the Supreme Court, so they should be loyal to him. Quid pro quo and all that ...

I suspect that for the Supreme Court to actually give any of the cases an actual court treatment, rather than just dismissing it after receiving the filed lawsuit, there needs to be something new, backed by actual evidence. And in that case I suspect the Supreme Court would first order that the case be sent back to a lower court? If there is nothing new compared to the lawsuits filed to (and dismissed by) lower courts, the Supreme Court won't be interested either. After all, the role of the Supreme Court in most countries is to judge whether rulings by lower courts are in accordance with the law (i.e. assure correct application of the law) and especially to hold those rulings up against the Constitution.

Of course the Supreme Court won't waste their time on hearsay dismissed by lower courts.
 
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