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- Thread starter Genghis Khan
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So before I answer this, I want to preface by saying that none of this is a defense of Trump or the republicans actions. Anyone who is refusing to acknowledge Biden’s victory/casting doubt on the results/alleging fraud without evidence should be ashamed of themselves. This is how democracies lose legitimacy.
With that being said, I think a political calculation is being made by the Republicans. The GOP is assuming that the electoral institutions can withstand Trump’s behavior and are going along with it in an act of preservation. They are well positioned to win back the house in 2022 and can probably at least hold the line in the senate. But it might be contingent on keeping favor with Trump. He proved to be a driver of turnout this year and ironically probably helped Republicans keep the senate and make gains in the House despite losing the election. They’re going to need his base and they’re going to want him or his family to campaign for them in 2022. If Trump or a member of his family is looking to run in 2024, this might be achievable. There’s also the short term for thinking with the Georgia runoffs, although I’m not sure if it’s a good idea to hitch your wagon to Trump after he just became the first Republican to lose there since the 90s.
So republicans are going to go along with this and when the results are certified in December, the goalposts will move and a new narrative will be formed. Same on Jan 20. Ultimately Biden will become president, but I can imagine a significant number of republicans will continue to consider him an illegitimate president, which will lead to obstruction for as long as they control at least one branch of government.
With all that being said, time will tell if Republicans are making the right calculation. It’s not guaranteed that Trump stays in politics, and even if he does he probably isn’t going to be that involved unless he’s on the ballot. Furthermore, Republicans don’t seem to do as well when Trump isn’t on the ballot. So getting behind Trump might be a waste. Not to mention that Trump is now a one term president, that kind of label is a huge blow to his brand. The base will stick with him, but he’s not going to get 70 million people to stick with him.
I am also not sure if Trump tries to stay in the White House. I could easily see him leaving to Florida during Christmas vacation and never coming back.
This story is a pretty telling sign that nobody in the GOP seriously believes that Biden isn’t going to be the president:
www.politico.com
Everything is qualified with “if Biden wins” to placate Trump, but they wouldn’t be doing this if PA had been called for Trump.
Top Senate Republicans say Biden should get presidential intel briefings
It’s the latest sign that the GOP could be inching closer to acknowledging Biden won the presidency.
www.politico.com
Everything is qualified with “if Biden wins” to placate Trump, but they wouldn’t be doing this if PA had been called for Trump.
Dr. Eddies Wingman
Brighter than thousand_suns
What are the odds the Trump campaign will make a big fuzz about the ruling in their favor in Pennsylvania, that the deadline for voters to validate their mail-in ballots could not be extended beyond November 9th? Of course, we're only talking about 3000 or so votes that haven't yet been counted anyway, but it's a win nonetheless.
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Travis The Dragon
AFTERGLOW!!!
I always wonder if there are any members on here who actually support Trump and if so, wonder why they don't take the time to come on this thread and try to make posts on here that support him. I mean certainly this site must have SOME members like that. But then they must read all of the other posts on here and think that there's no point in even trying. 
They don't like posting 
Dr. Eddies Wingman
Brighter than thousand_suns
There isn't, they left because this place was too damn liberal for them
Jer
'Til Tomorrow
I’ve said it many times in this thread: I would be delighted if more conservative folks/Trump supporters want to post in this thread. They’re going to be faced with disagreement, but that comes with the territory on an online forum. I would hope the discourse here is more intelligent and respectful than other places.I always wonder if there are any members on here who actually support Trump and if so, wonder why they don't take the time to come on this thread and try to make posts on here that support him. I mean certainly this site must have SOME members like that. But then they must read all of the other posts on here and think that there's no point in even trying.
Certainly, I'd be welcome to the discussion.
I ban Nazis, and anything that smacks of Nazism, without hesitation or concern, so maybe some of them are worried about that.
Jer
'Til Tomorrow
Yax
Ancient Mariner
So. Trump's Election defence donations. There is some fine print here. Any donation under 8k goes straight to RNC, Trump and his PAC instead.
www.reuters.com
Donations under $8K to Trump ‘election defense’ instead go to president, RNC
As President Donald Trump seeks to discredit last week's election with baseless claims of voter fraud, his team has bombarded his supporters with requests for money to help pay for legal challenges to the results: “The Left will try to STEAL this election!” reads one text.
www.reuters.com
Dr. Eddies Wingman
Brighter than thousand_suns
Well well well ...So. Trump's Election defence donations. There is some fine print here. Any donation under 8k goes straight to RNC, Trump and his PAC instead.
Donations under $8K to Trump ‘election defense’ instead go to president, RNC
As President Donald Trump seeks to discredit last week's election with baseless claims of voter fraud, his team has bombarded his supporters with requests for money to help pay for legal challenges to the results: “The Left will try to STEAL this election!” reads one text.
Yax
Ancient Mariner
I don't think it's about money per se. I think it's about maintaining his grip on the party during Biden's term, through his PAC, which needs money to be relevant.
Dr. Eddies Wingman
Brighter than thousand_suns
Good point.