I have never met someone who thinks of the word "natural" that way who hasn't studied philosophy in depth.. I have only ever heard people to literally mean "that happens in the state of nature" or "doesn't happen in the state of nature". So yes, that's what I'm talking about. I expect you to be eloquent enough to explain your point without referring to such crassness.Just BTW - although 90-95% people will probably use this wrong, "natural" in this context doesn't mean (or isn't supposed to mean at least) "according to nature" or in any way connected with "nature" as you probably use and understand the word - it means it is against the human final, philosophic nature (yep, the word has more meanings).
Luckily, I live in a place where gay people can get all the married they want, but the Catholic Church (nor any other church) doesn't have to bless those marriages. And should I ever get married, I can assure you that no churches will have anything to do with it. So I guess I'd be about as married as a gay person when it comes to those churches?
I 100% meant it, it just wasn't targeted at you.Yep, but reacting to Travis who asked why is there so few Trumpers here your post seemed to imply that it's because Trumpers = Nazis (or at least most of them), if you know what I mean. Yep, you didn't say that, but the silent implication was what I said is not nice. I realize you probably didn't really mean it that way or that it was meant in jest.