The Official Book of Souls Tour 2016 Thread (Warning: Spoilers within!)

jazz from hell said:
That still means that at least Nicko would need a click to not get out of sync. Myself, I have to listen again, I'm not 100% sure how they did it, but ATM it indeed seems like click- and vocal-track to me. :-(
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Nicko admitted he has a visual metronome. Neil Peart was doing something similar; Rush used a lot of samples, but only Neil would see (not hear) the tempo. He (Neil) said he was orientating himself tempo-wise by the small light next to his Hi-Hat.
 
Niall Kielt said:
My theory on the jacket and gloves (not at all anthropologist like to my eye ball) is that he doesnt want electrocuted by the heart. I remember seeing an vid from early in the tour when he didnt wear that get up and he flinches after touching the heart. Thats my theory an im stickin to it
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Do you mean Bruce didn't want to be electrocuted by the heart in reality or that the anthropologist character didn't want to be electrocuted by the heart as part of the story?
 
matic22 said:
I think it's a track. If the backing vocals were sampled per note, they wouldn't sound identical to record. The most possible variation of this story is that the backing vocals are triggered at the beginning of each chorus by Michael and then the whole track plays.
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Forostar said:
I really think it can be heard that it is played.
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Agree with Foro here. They can do amazing things with keyboards and samples these days. Have you seen the kind of stuff Jordan Rudess from Dream Theater can map to a keyboard?

With the right equipment, you can map each vocal sample and modulation to a different key on the keyboard. Then when you load up the right sounds/samples, Kenney just has to play the notes and instead of hearing a keyboard sound you'll hear Bruce's pre-loaded tracks. I would say it's probably the most legitimately "live" way to use samples.
 
Jordan Rudess has been doing keyboard mapping and sampling since he joined the band. In other words, since Maiden reunited in 1999. It's about time they caught up with that. :p
 
MrKnickerbocker said:
With the right equipment, you can map each vocal sample and modulation to a different key on the keyboard. Then when you load up the right sounds/samples, Kenney just has to play the notes and instead of hearing a keyboard sound you'll hear Bruce's pre-loaded tracks. I would say it's probably the most legitimately "live" way to use samples.
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I'm pretty sure this is precisely what electronic bands a la Depeche Mode do live.
 
bearfan said:
TBOS (the song) needs to remain a staple on tours ... I liked it on the album, but it is just at a whole different level live.
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Absolutely. This is the top 10 song of the album, a triumph.

Or as I said in the chat: whenever someone complains about Janick, I just want to take TBOS and beat them to death with it.
 
It's up there, but I can't see it being played in subsequent tours. I think it'll be Death or Glory that becomes a staple.
 
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Mosh said:
It's up there, but I can't see it being played in subsequent tours. I think it'll be Death or Glory that becomes a staple.
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I'm surprised they haven't released it as a single yet with some sort of Eddie-Monkey on top of a bi-plane as the cover.
 
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MrKnickerbocker said:
With the right equipment, you can map each vocal sample and modulation to a different key on the keyboard.
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Mosh said:
Jordan Rudess has been doing keyboard mapping and sampling since he joined the band. In other words, since Maiden reunited in 1999. It's about time they caught up with that. :p
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The Flash said:
I'm pretty sure this is precisely what electronic bands a la Depeche Mode do live.
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You could get keyboards in the late 80's that you could record sounds to tape; each key then played the sound at a different pitch. This ain't new & certainly pre-dates 1999. And it wasn't cutting edge in the late-80's/early-90's either. I think you could buy the keyboards in Woolworths...
 
bearfan said:
TBOS (the song) needs to remain a staple on tours ... I liked it on the album, but it is just at a whole different level live.
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Much like @Mosh I think the most likely song to return is Death or Glory due to a couple of things - the memetic level to which it's ascended and also that it looks on the surface easier to fit into a set. The Book Of Souls worked absolutely magnificently this tour but without the set built around it, without Eddie? It's still very good but won't do justice to it like this tour did.

I could see Tears of a Clown too I think. Maybe Speed of Light. I doubt If Eternity Should Fail and The Red And The Black will, though.
 
jazz from hell said:
My take on the Powerslave backing vox is:

It's highly improbable that they are single note samples of Bruce's original recordings being played on a keyboard. For various reasons.*
I don't like it either, but I'm pretty sure it's just a track. As @matic22 said, the track either starts at the beginning of the song or gets triggered by whomever when these voices enter.
But EVEN IF these voices were samples played on a keyboard - which they certainly aren't IMO - I would dislike that to almost the same degree.

*Who should be the keyboard tech master in the Maiden camp, that not only sampled every single note off of every single backing voc track (I wonder if these even still exist individually), but also programmed them so that they float organically as you described (Rudess) etc.? This just doesn't sound like Maiden; pragmatically, they would just never do that. What would even be the point, when you can just run a track? Cheating is cheating. AND it just sounds like the unaltered original vocals.
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I have a explanation. Just before the chorus the almighty H thinks of singing backing vocals on Powerslave, which he sang on World Slavery Tour too many times. He doesn't feel like singing them again. So the universe provides the original backing vocals, in whatever tempo the song is played that night, to the master who asked for them.

Which leads us to the fact that H is the universe. So... He triggers and delivers the backing vocals to us, perfectly in tempo.

Mystery solved.
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DJMayes said:
Much like @Mosh I think the most likely song to return is Death or Glory due to a couple of things - the memetic level to which it's ascended and also that it looks on the surface easier to fit into a set. The Book Of Souls worked absolutely magnificently this tour but without the set built around it, without Eddie? It's still very good but won't do justice to it like this tour did.

I could see Tears of a Clown too I think. Maybe Speed of Light. I doubt If Eternity Should Fail and The Red And The Black will, though.
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I hope yer wrong about Eternity but reckon yer right, we dont often get an opener repeated on the following tour. Fuckin love that song though. As for Book of Souls, I agree about the stage set but they did Rime on the following tour so heres hoping. I could see it replacing DoD in the future. Fuck it, play 'em both.
 
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Why is everyone just now talking (and complaining) about the backing vocals on Powerslave? They've been there the entire tour.

In Tulsa and Chicago I remember the backing vocals playing during the chorus. Perhaps they just sound much more defined on the Wacken stream because that part just happened to be super loud on the mix?
 
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