The Future Past Tour 2024

It has felt pretty clear to me the entire time that the solo projects are people setting themselves up for retirement, and also lends credence to the rumors that there is a schism within the band over some members being ready for retirement and some wanting to keep going (i.e. look at who isn't making solo albums). I get the feeling that if it were up to Bruce, Adrian, and Steve alone, there would be more Maiden activity. I wonder if there is an amount of arm twisting that has to happen to get people in the studio. And while Adrian seems to enjoy playing live, I wonder if he would rather save his ideas for projects where he has the final call on production choices. I also think, to Poto’s point, Maiden are creatures of habit and aren’t going to budge from the album tour/nostalgia tour pattern that they have maintained since the reunion (even in the face of a pandemic that forced them to wait 4 years between recording and proper touring).
 
It has felt pretty clear to me the entire time that the solo projects are people setting themselves up for retirement, and also lends credence to the rumors that there is a schism within the band over some members being ready for retirement and some wanting to keep going (i.e. look at who isn't making solo albums). I get the feeling that if it were up to Bruce, Adrian, and Steve alone, there would be more Maiden activity. I wonder if there is an amount of arm twisting that has to happen to get people in the studio. And while Adrian seems to enjoy playing live, I wonder if he would rather save his ideas for projects where he has the final call on production choices. I also think, to Poto’s point, Maiden are creatures of habit and aren’t going to budge from the album tour/nostalgia tour pattern that they have maintained since the reunion (even in the face of a pandemic that forced them to wait 4 years between recording and proper touring).
Which lends even further proof that the main guy seeking retirement is most likely Davey. I just can't fathom a world where Janick wants to retire from performing.
 
Which lends even further proof that the main guy seeking retirement is most likely Davey. I just can't fathom a world where Janick wants to retire from performing.
Yea but at the same time what does Janick do in the 9 months out of the year that Maiden isn’t touring?

I get that Janick is always giving it his all on stage and contributes consistently some of the best material to the new albums, but I find it pretty strange that he has basically only done Maiden since joining in 1990.
 
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It has felt pretty clear to me the entire time that the solo projects are people setting themselves up for retirement, and also lends credence to the rumors that there is a schism within the band over some members being ready for retirement and some wanting to keep going (i.e. look at who isn't making solo albums).
I wouldn't say not making solo albums is the equivalent to wanting to retire by a longshot. Dave has never been particularly ambitious with his career or even his songwriting. He contributes a song...on an irregular basis, to say the least. He's always seemed the type of guy to simply enjoy his downtime, enjoys his time onstage, and then goes home at the end of a tour to repeat the cycle.

It reminds me of seeing Marco Hietala (ex-Nightwish) on the Decades tour several years ago. I'd seen him before a few times live, but I never saw him looking like he was gritting his teeth through a show like he was at that show. Not all that long later, he quit the band.

Meanwhile, Dave's still smiling onstage after 50 years, and he doesn't seem like he's got a fake bone in his body. Yeah, there was that article that made the rounds a few years ago (and still gets trotted out every now and then) about him wanting to retire, but I never saw that verified anywhere as being authentic.

Kind of the same with Janick. He contributes a lot, obviously enjoys playing live, but look at when he was far more in his prime in 1990. Rather than start some project of his own, he was ready to sell his guitars and get a normal job because he wasn't able to get steady work playing in a band.
 
It has felt pretty clear to me the entire time that the solo projects are people setting themselves up for retirement, and also lends credence to the rumors that there is a schism within the band over some members being ready for retirement and some wanting to keep going (i.e. look at who isn't making solo albums). I get the feeling that if it were up to Bruce, Adrian, and Steve alone, there would be more Maiden activity. I wonder if there is an amount of arm twisting that has to happen to get people in the studio. And while Adrian seems to enjoy playing live, I wonder if he would rather save his ideas for projects where he has the final call on production choices. I also think, to Poto’s point, Maiden are creatures of habit and aren’t going to budge from the album tour/nostalgia tour pattern that they have maintained since the reunion (even in the face of a pandemic that forced them to wait 4 years between recording and proper touring).
I think it might be more with Adrian/Bruce/Steve wanting to be more musically active while recognizing the Maiden machine can't run more than four months out of a year without burning the band and the public out.
 
Was the Dave retirement thing ever substantiated in any way? I can't recall.

But yeah, he strikes me as happy enough, he jams with his mates like Alice Cooper when in Hawaii, maybe that's all the music he needs. For all we know he writes plenty of beautiful slow intro pieces and plays them on the beach at sunset each night. And maybe that's enough.

As for Janick, well I reckon he has a full and content life without more professional music outside Maiden. He shops in TK Maxx, he goes to watch Hartlepool and based on his offstage footwear I assume that he walks a lot, in the hills, among the trees. And he definitely hits up the odd wellness retreat in Bali and the like.

Obviously retirement is close and it wouldn't surprise me if the next tour is the last. And there's zero chance of a live album from the last tour. Regardless of the reasons or any plans they may have had, its too close to the next tour. It make no sense. The thing I wonder is whether they plan to gradually release things post retirement. I'd take that but would also appreciate if they can't be bothered. I can see how it would feel like living in the past or flogging a dead horse, to Bruce in particular. But I can imagine Steve wanting to dive in and make things he wants to release.

We'll see but there will be no Future Past live release this side of RFYL.
 
Screw the rockstar touring the world, playing to crowds of thousands bullshit, this is the real dream you want to achieve. Work for a few months a year, make so much money you can just spend the remainder at the pub.
Nailed it. Although I'd add a couple of hours surfing each day to earn the Pints. Hawaii is good for that. Dave has it sussed.
 
I think that's a wild leap to make. Don't take anything for granted obviously, but the desire as a musician to record a new album is very different to not releasing a live album. Especially one with rather unique problems as this one.
This. TFP was a new album tour all in all, so Maiden are on a normal course for the next album cycle. They have their habits and never follow a Hits tour with another Hits tour. Nicko could have changed their plans, who knows.
But I don’t see the desire to write a new album either.
Senjutsu is technically 6 years old this year and with the upcoming tour I can’t see them having any time to record a new album over the next year. Every time Maiden get some down time Steve runs off and books British lion tours, Adrian seems more interested in Smith/Kotzen and even Bruce is talking about his next solo album.
Whenever any of them has been asked about a new Maiden album in an interview they’ve just fobbed it off with the usual “yeah we’ve got loads of ideas and never say never” kind of answers.
Desire for now, they had in 2019, but the most important thing is that they have a lot of ideas. Adrian and Steve launched their solo projects now, because last year they didn't, while Bruce needs to gain momentum with his solo band. Steve and Adrian have solo projects since 2010. It's normal for them to keep their projects going now, right (not every year), 50 years into their career. And because they can, with Maiden they can't be so active for a whole year now, it's the same for the other old bands. They always answer like that for new albums, nothing surprising. Plus it's easier and faster to write and record for their solo stuff. But making solo albums means they'll retire soon (Steve said otherwise) is wrong.
It has felt pretty clear to me the entire time that the solo projects are people setting themselves up for retirement, and also lends credence to the rumors that there is a schism within the band over some members being ready for retirement and some wanting to keep going (i.e. look at who isn't making solo albums). I get the feeling that if it were up to Bruce, Adrian, and Steve alone, there would be more Maiden activity. I wonder if there is an amount of arm twisting that has to happen to get people in the studio. And while Adrian seems to enjoy playing live, I wonder if he would rather save his ideas for projects where he has the final call on production choices.
Dave's rumors were false, he's clearly still enjoying touring and smiling (always! and he writes just 1 song per album) after all these years. Just not for a whole year. Him and Janick never had side projects (Janick mentioned, iirc, that music isn't everything to him in the recent big Classic Rock interview). Bruce, Adrian and Steve are the most active and the primary songwriters. They probably want Maiden to be more active (Bruce for sure), but they also don't want to rush the material, I guess. It was different in the 80's. Adrian probably wants to have a say in the production, but Maiden and his solo stuff are different and he liked how the latest album sound. He enjoys both, even though hard rock is in his soul, both give him something different and needed/interesting for him. As he said recently, he wants to be creative and try different stuff.
We need to embrace the fact that they are coming towards the end of their career as a band. Personally, I think the discussions of a new album are delusional. They soak up any downtime with extracurricular activities and don’t seem interested in going into the studio.
Delusional? Wow. I believe in the band. It's normal to wait for a new music, yes even now, and yes from on old band. But it's also normal for them to run again their not that big side projects (not looking at Bruce), they want more playing live, now more than ever.
They just need time, a couple of months. That's it. It's different now than in the early-to-mid 2000's, Maiden aren't releasing new music more frequently than their peers. And it's sad, have to admit.
Obviously retirement is close and it wouldn't surprise me if the next tour is the last. And there's zero chance of a live album from the last tour. Regardless of the reasons or any plans they may have had, its too close to the next tour. It make no sense. The thing I wonder is whether they plan to gradually release things post retirement. I'd take that but would also appreciate if they can't be bothered. I can see how it would feel like living in the past or flogging a dead horse, to Bruce in particular. But I can imagine Steve wanting to dive in and make things he wants to release. We'll see but there will be no Future Past live release this side of RFYL.
Yeah, let's hope so they will do it from the vaults. I'm not sure if the band still knows what they're going to do after this tour, they're waiting to see how they do live with the new lineup, I guess. But the logical next step for a band like Maiden, who don't want to be a cabaret act, is a new album tour. As always since the Reunion. They are still delivering the goods live, no doubt.
 
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Sorry, but to me, the retirement rumour/ belief just goes against or ignores what members said in recent interviews and how they said it.
No, it really doesn't. They have also said they will not allow themselves to become a parody, or have their performances suffer. They are old, and the performances have dipped a bit in quality (drums and vocals). They have, although Bruce still holds up. We have a few years left, at most.
 
Yes, but they themselves (and that counts) don't perceive it like they are on the way to a parody already. Remember the recent interview where Dave raves about Bruce's voice etc...
and they are not. the only thing that have changed was nicko in the last tour due to his illness and bruce moves on the stage. that has changed a lot. i saw him during his solo tour last year and i have seen like 20 shows between maiden and bruce and he its miles away from 99 or 2012 or even 2017 during book of souls tour. he is old now but he can sing like always.
 
We need to embrace the fact that they are coming towards the end of their career as a band. Personally, I think the discussions of a new album are delusional. They soak up any downtime with extracurricular activities and don’t seem interested in going into the studio.
Delusional? Well, don't mind me saving this comment for future reference :D

(Crow will be served one way or another lol)
 
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