The Future Past tour 2023

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Bruce sounds amazing in every old song that they have played since reunion. Not one song he couldnt sing,now he is 65 and look how he sings CSIT SIASL and many others.

Im wondering.....if the tour continues during 2024 until may??? Next thing is bruce new album and tour. He said 3 weeks off and star the thing so....
2025 they are going to recors the last album
 
dickinson1978 said:
Bruce sounds amazing in every old song that they have played since reunion. Not one song he couldnt sing,now he is 65 and look how he sings CSIT SIASL and many others.
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Maybe only without Drifter and Charlotte The Harlot.
dickinson1978 said:
Im wondering.....if the tour continues during 2024 until may??? Next thing is bruce new album and tour. He said 3 weeks off and star the thing so....
2025 they are going to recors the last album
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I think they will record the album in 2024/2025 or 2026 at the latest.

2024 is going to be great: 2nd leg of the current tour (maybe with some changes), a concert video from it (if it is only 2 legs) and Bruce's new solo album and tour. Let's hope so.
permanenteddie said:
Having listened to about 120-130 bootlegs from that tour, apart from some nights here and there, it was really not Bruce's best tour in terms of singing. Maybe because he wasn't particularly happy with the album (here comes the story of how all of his ideas were rejected) or as far as I can remember, it was the first time he thought about leaving the band or he had any other problems but as much as I love the album and love to listen to bootlegs from that tour, the singing while not being bad, I'd rather listen to the 2023 versions of CSIT I heard so far. Same goes for Wasted years and SiaSL.
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Yes. Paris is a good performance from him imo.
 
Kalata said:
Is this a joke? Bruce is a much better singer now imo.
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Eh, people are allowed to have their opinions ;)

Bruce sounds fantastic for his age and has sounded worse at various times in his careers, but I'd be lying if I said that I love the way he sounds nowadays. My favorite era of his was 1995 - 2008, since then he's been declining, which isn't an attack on him. It's age catching up to him. Hope this isn't being seen as disrespectful, because he's had an amazing career and has aged much more gracefully than most of his peers. That said, his highs (like the chorus to SIASL, or the entirety of The Trooper) simply don't sound good or pleasant to me anymore. Don't get me wrong, I'm not ready for Maiden (or Bruce) to stop yet, but I can see why someone would prefer one of his better nights from 86 to his current voice. Just my 2 cents.
 
Vaenyr said:
Eh, people are allowed to have their opinions ;)

Bruce sounds fantastic for his age and has sounded worse at various times in his careers, but I'd be lying if I said that I love the way he sounds nowadays. My favorite era of his was 1995 - 2008, since then he's been declining, which isn't an attack on him. It's age catching up to him. Hope this isn't being seen as disrespectful, because he's had an amazing career and has aged much more gracefully than most of his peers. That said, his highs (like the chorus to SIASL, or the entirety of The Trooper) simply don't sound good or pleasant to me anymore. Don't get me wrong, I'm not ready for Maiden (or Bruce) to stop yet, but I can see why someone would prefer one of his better nights from 86 to his current voice. Just my 2 cents.
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Yeah, my idea here too. I just think when comparing age and performance I prefer the ones of the last twenty years because in the 80's, despite the fact he was younger so it should have meant his voice should have been way better, it sounded like sometimes he didn't know how to control it (for lack of a better expression). Since 20 or so years, it seems like he knows better what he can do and what he can't and so he adapt his voice accordingly. Of course, it means as well that he no longer can hold some notes or sing as high as he once could but the general feeling is that he knows better the way to make his voice sound good, sound greater than in some of his performances in the 80's imho.
 
permanenteddie said:
Yeah, my idea here too. I just think when comparing age and performance I prefer the ones of the last twenty years because in the 80's, despite the fact he was younger so it should have meant his voice should have been way better, it sounded like sometimes he didn't know how to control it (for lack of a better expression). Since 20 or so years, it seems like he knows better what he can do and what he can't and so he adapt his voice accordingly. Of course, it means as well that he no longer can hold some notes or sing as high as he once could but the general feeling is that he knows better the way to make his voice sound good, sound greater than in some of his performances in the 80's imho.
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Yes, control is a great point. Young Bruce pre-Powerslave was an insane vocalist, but quite unrefined. The energy he had, as well as his vocal range and the sheer pitches he could hit was absolutely amazing. My "issue" (if you want even call it that) with that era was that he didn't have the control over his voice that he'd develop over time. It happened a bit in studio albums, but was very apparent in live situations, prime example being the Beast Over Hammersmith album. He would very frequently overshoot the actual pitch he was going for, so while still impressive, it's not something I enjoy. That's why his later years are my favorite.
 
Vaenyr said:
That said, his highs (like the chorus to SIASL, or the entirety of The Trooper) simply don't sound good or pleasant to me anymore.
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This. I'm personally torn myself in this (and - another controversial opinion ahead! - I never really loved Bruce to begin with, as you all probably know, sorry!) but

- Bruce has definitely improved his technique and vocal care now, while he mostly just raw-powered through the 80s (IMHO), which made him spent after the World Slavery Tour - which would be toiling even with all precautions, because it was long and had a lot of hard performances with next to no breathing room in between - and resulted in him convalescing during the SIT tour (and maybe the album recordings as well, I don't see often compared his performances on the 80s albums, but just off the top of my head, he doesn't feel as confident as on the previous three albums, again, IMHO).

- nowadays, it's a bloody miracle what he does, yes, he can perform at the highest quality at his age (I'm not sure if some songs aren't shifted lower a bit, but I'm too lazy to check - I'll believe you if you say they aren't - and at the end of the day it's irrelevant, really) and in some ways he even feels more consistent to me. The theatricality (and "feelz") has also gone up, methinks, which is another plus, I personally find that to be his forte, moreso than the "air raid siren" itself.


That said, I totally get when someone doesn't like his performance now much - there has been a significant shift in timbre, he sounds older, whinier, even, his articulation in the harder parts has worsened as well and in general, he sounds more strained in the higher parts, even though he probably technically isn't (he couldn't manage a whole tour at his age if he actually was, again, IMHO).
So I find it perfectly understandable that some people won't like the current performances or prefer the older ones, despite the current ones being arguably more technical.

I know many people want to hear the "old Bruce" and I get it, but I'll admit I'd be perfectly okay with him doing the easier songs, staying in the lower register (where he actually improved with age), ramp up the singer-songwriter-theatre-Hammillesque aspect and enjoy and embrace the darkness that comes with age (hint - most of the Blaze-era songs would be a perfect fit).
 
For me it’s more like, I can fully tell that the man is continuing to get older and his singing is going to continue to sound rougher. That’s just the nature of age and of surviving throat cancer. I also did not agree at all with those who said that he was “rolling off the years” on Senjutsu; it’s the worst he’s ever sounded on a studio album, straight up (although I think they just should’ve done a few more takes).

But on the other hand.

Even on Senjutsu he doesn’t sound bad. It’s still a solid performance and features some great moments. And honestly I kind of think that post-cancer his voice went in an upwards arc. Singing the high notes on the TBOS Tour could sound overly strained, but on LOTB (particularly the first leg) he had really refined himself, and now on The Future Past Tour he sounds better than he did on any SoTour bootleg I’ve heard. Miles better than on the bad ones, holy shit. His control is way better, and sure, he’s standing in one place a lot, but the difference is incredible.

So it’s not like I can’t notice a difference. It’s just that he’s still my favorite singer, period, even as he and his voice continues to age. He still gives performances to admire.
 
One thing I really appreciate about Senjutsu as an album is that many of the vocal takes are in his mid range, instead of constantly straining in his higher register. Ironically enough, one of the most straining parts on the album are the verses to TWOTW, written by Bruce lol

DOD and especially BNW feature a lot of vocal harmonies, something Bruce was experimenting a lot on his solo albums as well. Unfortunately their amount has decreased drastically since AMOLAD. Senjutsu had some here and there and I really hope, if there's another album, that they'll utilize that a bit more.
 
Vaenyr said:
Eh, people are allowed to have their opinions ;)
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Of course, but he said even when Bruce was sick! I like Bruce's 80's voice too, but I like his voice since 1997 better. There are some good performances from the 1986 tour. His live performances (and studio, ofc) on his first two tours with the band were amazing. Then came the grand tour, which did not help his voice. Although his voice has changed (since 2014), he still hits most of the high notes. This is something normal. He is a better singer now in terms of vocal power and technique and still sounds amazing, even with a rougher voice (compared to the 1994-2014 period).
Diesel 11 said:
I also did not agree at all with those who said that he was “rolling off the years” on Senjutsu; it’s the worst he’s ever sounded on a studio, straight up (although I think they just should’ve done a few more takes).
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Yep, a few more takes would have helped - like they should have done for The Final Frontier album. The high middle part of the title track, the chorus of TWOTW and LIALW are the only parts/songs that can benefit from this imo. In songs like DOFP and Hell On Earth, he sounds younger. There is no ''worst studio performance'' of Bruce for me. His voice is truly pure gold.
Vaenyr said:
DOD and especially BNW feature a lot of vocal harmonies, something Bruce was experimenting a lot on his solo albums as well. Unfortunately their amount has decreased drastically since AMOLAD. Senjutsu had some here and there and I really hope, if there's another album, that they'll utilize that a bit more.
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This.
 
Flaming Blimp Crash said:
Something I just realized: The Future Past Tour (I believe) is the first-ever Iron Maiden tour where the band debuted a song from a previous studio album on a tour not supporting its immediate release.
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i think this tour was already planned before. and i also think that it would have more songs from SIT. But the pandemic screw all the band/artists plans and they all are still rescheduling everything.
 
onurb said:
i think this tour was already planned before. and i also think that it would have more songs from SIT. But the pandemic screw all the band/artists plans and they all are still rescheduling everything.
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Huh? Sea of Madness, maybe..?

If the Somewhere in Time revisit was a well-beforehand planned thing, I believe instead of the Senjutsu representation we might have got even Rime of the Ancient Mariner (as with The Prisoner, Bruce has expressed that it would be nice to do again) and/or few other classics that have rested since the History of Maiden tours. Phantom of the Opera is certainly such candidate and maybe some additional cut from Seventh Son. An updated version of the Brave New World backdrop would fit The Future Past/Blade Runner esque stage almost too well, so it might have been there too.

...buuut this is a long-shot and pure speculation from my part, of course.
 
I only watched videos here and there, so that there is still enough excitement for "my" gig.
Interestingly, it is "Death of the Celts" that has stuck in my head. And it's not even my favorite "Senjutsu" song. There must be a musical reason for that, but I haven't figured it out yet.

But apparently it has the role of "Blood Brothers" in that Bruce talks about humanity etc. beforehand.
 
Does anybody have good quality video of Eddie dropping the helmet at the Tampere, Finland june 3rd?
It happened with the walking Senjutsu Eddie during the song Iron Maiden.
It was funny as Bruce wore it (as Skywalker)..and I would like to see it again..
 
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