The Future Past tour 2023

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UpTheIrons said:
It's not so much requiring bargain basement prices, but rather if I'm paying a large sum of money to see a band I'm expecting something spectacular. I did hear that GNR were brilliant in 2018 though.
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Yeah that "bargain basement" was more an in general comment rather than this specific gig, which is obviously OTT even for the cheap seats.

Saying that, I pretty much have seen this festival before, I did 3 days at Firenze Rocks in 2018, and GNR headlined the Friday, Maiden the Saturday, and Ozzy the Sunday. I can't remember exactly how much the tickets were, but it probably was over €300 at least.

I would absolutely consider going to this Power Trip if it was in Florence!
 
GhostofCain said:
I have heard from North American fans about their disappointment with the new sound. This was the time when thrash metal was erupting and Judas Priest and Iron Maiden went in the opposite direction, apparently much to many of their fans dismay.
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My understanding of the US reception was that the US loved Somewhere in Time but didn't quite "get" Seventh Son. Somewhere in Time at its core is not that far removed from Powerslave, after all. It just has guitar synths. Wasted Years was a huge hit.

Granted, I was 6 years old when SIT came out so my interpretation is based on band interviews and such.
 
gazda said:
I wonder how Tool get in there. Maybe bringing back Slayer or Sabbath from retirement would more fit for this lineup.

Or put Pantera or Crue on this festival. Maybe Tool was not even first option...
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I know that Pantera used to be huge in America, but the current line up isn't popular and they're getting effectively canceled left and right because of Anselmo's antics.
 
gazda said:
I wonder how Tool get in there. Maybe bringing back Slayer or Sabbath from retirement would more fit for this lineup.

Or put Pantera or Crue on this festival. Maybe Tool was not even first option...
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Probably because both Tool and GNR are playing Aftershock festival in California which is pretty much on the same week, would have been the easier option grabbing those bands to fill out the lineup.
Having Sabbath instead of Ozzy would have been a better idea, I would have also chose someone like Alice Cooper over Tool who was also free
 
gazda said:
I wonder how Tool get in there. Maybe bringing back Slayer or Sabbath from retirement would more fit for this lineup.

Or put Pantera or Crue on this festival. Maybe Tool was not even first option...
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I never got into Tool, but they're doing pretty well from what I've seen. Slayer would have been a good pick - especially as the lead up to Metallica. Pantera in its current incarnation is an opening act. Motley Crue's doing well for themselves nowadays but I don't think they'd fit the overall vibe of the fest.
 
chaosapiant said:
My understanding of the US reception was that the US loved Somewhere in Time but didn't quite "get" Seventh Son. Somewhere in Time at its core is not that far removed from Powerslave, after all. It just has guitar synths. Wasted Years was a huge hit.

Granted, I was 6 years old when SIT came out so my interpretation is based on band interviews and such.
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Funnily enough, some of those fans told me that they think Steve is wrong in claiming that the USA did not understand Seventh Son of a Seventh Son (the argument used by Steve to explain their decline in sales and popularity in the States in 1988). For these fans the downward trend in sales was started by the disappointment that Somewhere in Time was to many of them. Following the release of that album in 1986, many did not bother to check what came next.
 
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Re SIT and Seventh Son. I think the high sales of Somewhere in Time were more because Maiden was on an upswing with the World Slavery tour and the live album that came after. Any song besides Wasted Years (maybe Heaven Can Wait) is going to probably get a lukewarm reaction at best from a general audience. I don't really see a festival crowd going crazy for Alexander the Great, but that's just me. As far as Maiden's decline after that, I think it's just a sign of the times. Thrash metal and hair metal were kicking into high gear and while Maiden started to add synthesizers, I'm not sure SIT/SOASS really scratched that itch. Additionally, mainstream taste in America moves fast and Maiden was probably already seen as old news either way.

It's worth noting also that Can I Play With Madness charted in the USA while neither SIT singles charted. Album sales may have declined but they at least had some success with the song (probably thanks to MTV airplay as well).
 
I have a suspicion that maybe Maiden won't be playing other US dates aside from Power Trip. Given how much they're being paid I'm betting there's a level of exclusivity factored into their contract.
 
Vaenyr said:
Yes, the transition at 2:15 is one of those and probably the most prominent one. The playing itself is fine. The different sections were recorded at different tempos and crossfaded together. It almost sounds random when the drums come in. Note, I'm not criticizing the structure of the song, I'm simply pointing out that the transition is entirely digital, making it jarring. When they play the song live it's going to work better, but on the studio album it's unfortunately rather weak in my opinion.
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Ok I realise that this was pages ago, but good point there. Pretty lame but in the same time it's pleasant to my ears the 2:15 transition.

Vaenyr said:
My argument is that Maiden, professional musicians who for the last 30 years have left plenty of easily fixable errors and mistakes in their album did just that once again. I'm not even talking about subjective opinions, I'm talking about objectively observable mistakes.
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Yeah fully agree, they seem to have shifted to a more lazy approach from X Factor onwards. In Fear of the Dark we witnessed the first co-production credit by Harris. Then Martin Birch immediately retired. Go figure :D
 
Spaldy said:
I have a suspicion that maybe Maiden won't be playing other US dates aside from Power Trip. Given how much they're being paid I'm betting there's a level of exclusivity factored into their contract.
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Not to mention it probably makes bringing their entire production out there for a one off worth it. Still, it would seem like a waste not to do some NA dates. It also allows them to condense the tour a bit on the off chance they would rather go back into the studio or do another greatest hits tour sooner than later.

If there are other dates they probably won’t be able to announce until a bit after tickets go on sale.
 
Spaldy said:
I have a suspicion that maybe Maiden won't be playing other US dates aside from Power Trip. Given how much they're being paid I'm betting there's a level of exclusivity factored into their contract.
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No way there is a nationwide exclusivity clause. That would be astronomically expensive. They can contractually mandate no shows in the immediate region or maybe even in California, but I can’t imagine Maiden accepting a single gig that tells them they can’t play anywhere else in the country.
 
GhostofCain said:
Either way, they would be people with deep pockets!

P5 $799 + fees
P4 $999 + fees
P3 $1,099 + fees
P2 $1,399 + fees
P1 $1,599 + fees

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:wub: Bargain!

*Remember: you'd need 500$ to say 12 words to Robert Trujillo's grandfather and north of 3000$ to shake Kirk and Robert's hand (though pat pat is limited to only one of them)
 
MrKnickerbocker said:
No way there is a nationwide exclusivity clause. That would be astronomically expensive. They can contractually mandate no shows in the immediate region or maybe even in California, but I can’t imagine Maiden accepting a single gig that tells them they can’t play anywhere else in the country.
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Metallica, Tool and GNR have California dates scheduled for this year.
 
MrKnickerbocker said:
No way there is a nationwide exclusivity clause. That would be astronomically expensive. They can contractually mandate no shows in the immediate region or maybe even in California, but I can’t imagine Maiden accepting a single gig that tells them they can’t play anywhere else in the country.
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Don't think they would have an issue if they were NOT planning on touring the U.S anyway!
 
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