I guess so as it was their first full live album guess they wanted to cover the back catalogue. Im still very dubious they ever played BITV though lol
I've never heard of the "Space Heads" gig... where/when was that?
It wasn't played live...
December 21, 1988... Sorry, you´ll have to wait for my book to come out to learn more about the gig
Same. I always assumed it was the band misremembering/confusing rehearsals and the first show. But I really don't see how you'd even begin to get that little snippet to sounding even remotely accurate to a real '84 bootleg even with modern technology.
Will I have to wait for your book to come out to learn more about it?
I don't comment quite often here but read this forum every day and to be honest, your comments come quite as arrogant. Why do you act like you're the only one that knows the whole truth??? You may know a lot about Iron Maiden, maybe a lot more than a lot of us here but should it mean you know everything and you're right each and every time you write something??? To be honest, I had my doubts about BITV for a long time but with the little snipet and the whole story it seems pretty reliable so why you have to be so categorical about it??? Just because you talked to 5 five persons that said it wasn't played? So you're basically saying the guy (world made of iron) is just full of sh*t and lying about the whole thing? Why should he be doing that? To get some attention??? I don't think so...His story seems pretty trustworthy...at least more than yours!
Well, I have basically told everything I know for now. The song was reheased literally a couple of times during the production rehearsals that took place in Hannover in August 1984 but ended up being drop because, once again, the band didn't like how it turned out. This had been confirmed not only by people who were at those rehearsals (and one of them has given me a quite extensive interview) but also double and triple checked. Of course, I know that people still can be wrong and that it may be confusing with the "small sample" doing the rounds but I am 99.9% sure that it wasn't played live.
No, it was dropped Samantha. This was confirmed by Harris himself on Kerrang! magazine No. 130, issued on October 2, 1986 and I quote: "We already dropped one that we didn't feel all that good playing, 'The Loneliness Of The Long Distance Runner', which is my song but it was me who actually decided it wasn't all that good."
I am sorry if I come as arrogant as I can assure you that it is not my intention. However, I must also say that I have been researching Iron Maiden for more than 30 years, have spoken with loads of people related to the band and I know a whole lot more than a lot of fans, simply because I have turned my research into work, not just a hobby. Besides all of what I have said, I'm old enough to have seen many people get scammed by "snippets" or people wanting to get attention for whatever reason. I also have seen many fellow researchers being called names and laugh at (greatest example I can think of is Ricardo Lira, who was originally the guy who said that Paul Cairns participated in TSHT, who was mocked for years (even by me at one time) because no one believed what he said and turned out he WAS telling the truth). Anyway, my claims are based on facts which can be checked in any of my ebooks or books... You want to believe something else, that's fine with me...
) not on the story of one guy (who by the way doesn't even say what the radio station is or the person who recorded the thing in the first place)
I kinda understand part of your point of view since myself, fan for almost 30 years (bought my first album, A Real Dead One in december 1993), have been searching for every bit of information about my favorite band and I think I have each and every book available (at least the ones published in english, french or portuguese)! Been collecting bootlegs for around 15-20 years (even if I almost stopped this nowadays because I lost interest in it and also don't have as much time as I used to, to listen to them) so I can say, as well, that I know a lot about Maiden as well. But where we may be different is that for some facts, specially old ones, I won't be as categorical as you are (or at least, that's how it looks like reading your posts) and I accept different points of view simply because sometimes there are (three) sides to every story or some other times, it's impossible to know who's right or wrong (even when these people act in good faith). Our memory may play tricks on us, sometimes we can write down things and just make a mistake when doing so and never correct them so when we'll read it again years later,we just forgot there was a mistake...and so on!I am sorry if I come as arrogant as I can assure you that it is not my intention. However, I must also say that I have been researching Iron Maiden for more than 30 years, have spoken with loads of people related to the band and I know a whole lot more than a lot of fans, simply because I have turned my research into work, not just a hobby. Besides all of what I have said, I'm old enough to have seen many people get scammed by "snippets" or people wanting to get attention for whatever reason. I also have seen many fellow researchers being called names and laugh at (greatest example I can think of is Ricardo Lira, who was originally the guy who said that Paul Cairns participated in TSHT, who was mocked for years (even by me at one time) because no one believed what he said and turned out he WAS telling the truth). Anyway, my claims are based on facts which can be checked in any of my ebooks or books... You want to believe something else, that's fine with me...
If my posts bother you so much you're free to not read them, so you don't get annoyed or get your break
Everyone makes mistakes and to have one or two in a 1121 page ebook, think is pretty reasonable, don't you? In any case, I don't think I have ever said I know it all, quite the contrary. In my first physical book I wrote this: "Responsibility for any and all errors and omissions remain my own. In that respect, while every care has been taken to quote accurately, to avoid distortion when summarising or extracting from publications or correspondence, to make dates as precise as possible, and so on, it would be naive not to expect Byrne's Law to apply - ie that further information always turns up immediately after any factual statement is published. In that respect, response from readers of this publication correcting errors and in-filling omissions will be most welcome, and would, of course, be duly acknowledged in the event of any future editions."
On a last note, I don't think I'm the king of truths, but I base my claims on FACTS and I can definitely back up my claims with data (which I have reveal WITHOUT releasing my book
Man, I really appreciate your comments and appeciations. And let me just say that I agree 100% with what you say. I do try to keep an open mind but because of what I have seen in my research I tend to be very careful with what I believe in when someone comes out as having the holy grail if you get what I mean?
Ye know, its quite audible to me now you've said it. Prior to your revelation I was hearin garbled versions of Moscow and Lucerne. As you were.
He's shouting "Scream For Me Warszawa" - Warszawa stands for Polish name of Warsaw and Bruce usually use this in every Warsaw show through the years. If something's here is distorted, is just a Polish language
