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I think we all agree regarding the Klingons.
Gonna watch now and write my thoughts...
At least the CBS All Access intro is extremely short.
"We have engaged the Klingons." "We have engaged the Borg." Huh.
Why does Michael still have a Starfleet logo on her prison jumpsuit. What the fuck. Also - human prisoners! That'd piss off Roddenbury.
Neat little creature on the shuttle, but it seems a little action-Trek for me. Cool reveal of the Discovery though. She looks like serious business. NCC-1031...puts her firmly launched between the NX-01 and the NCC-1701.
Intro is cool and all, but I really do miss "to boldly go where no one has gone before". Roddenbury damn near summarized the entire human condition with that one monologue.
I feel like there's some retconning going on. Discovery is supposed to be new - but lots of people say it's 10 years before TOS. Yet we know that TOS was at least 5, and as many as 15, years after the first Constitution-class Enterprise was launched. Things are weird.
"Starfleet says we have to feed the animals." Not a very Star Trek thing to say.
Oh hey, it's fish face dude. What is this, all the people who were on the Shenzhou?
Shit, Captain Lucius Malfoy shows up finally! And his eyes are fucked up. Is he like, white, interesting Geordi, perhaps? Does a pretty good American accent. I don't trust him, just because he's Jason Isaacs.
"To win the war, of course." Ooh, mysterious. Still, I get the feeling he's concocted this entire situation so he can get Michael on board. I almost wonder if they're going to offer Burnham to the Klingons as weregild, which would also...not be very Star Trek.
Holy shit, a redhead just showed up, +1! I thought her condition would be that she was like autistic or something, but maybe they fixed that in the future. They are commenting on the name Michael now. It makes me feel like they're going to tell us why. It's all goo...wtf is black alert?!
Michael is really bad at apologizing. And fishy is thinkin' she's all fishy. "I intend to do a better job protecting my captain than you did yours." OH SNAP!
Anthony Rapp's dickhead engineer is hilarious. I love him already. He is doing the rival engineer thing that Geordi did too. Interesting.
OK, already breaking in and breaking the rules. This girl must be Ben Sisko's great-grandmother. SPACE GARDEN.
I still don't trust Lorca, he seems like a sneaky fucker. What's his play here? Angry engineer is angry. Really interesting what's happening here, but I'm not entirely sure it's Star Trek.
Fucked up stuff on the other ship, the Glenn. Presumably named after John Glenn?
Ahhh, yes, biogenic weapons. Makes sense. "I live by the principles of the United Federation of Planets." Except that one time, eh Michael? Oh, wait, it's not. This is kind of dumb. Sounds like Transwarp.
Not sure where this is going, but it's getting a little better.
"We have engaged the Klingons." "We have engaged the Borg." Huh.
Why does Michael still have a Starfleet logo on her prison jumpsuit. What the fuck. Also - human prisoners! That'd piss off Roddenbury.
Neat little creature on the shuttle, but it seems a little action-Trek for me. Cool reveal of the Discovery though. She looks like serious business. NCC-1031...puts her firmly launched between the NX-01 and the NCC-1701.
Intro is cool and all, but I really do miss "to boldly go where no one has gone before". Roddenbury damn near summarized the entire human condition with that one monologue.
I feel like there's some retconning going on. Discovery is supposed to be new - but lots of people say it's 10 years before TOS. Yet we know that TOS was at least 5, and as many as 15, years after the first Constitution-class Enterprise was launched. Things are weird.
"Starfleet says we have to feed the animals." Not a very Star Trek thing to say.
Oh hey, it's fish face dude. What is this, all the people who were on the Shenzhou?
Shit, Captain Lucius Malfoy shows up finally! And his eyes are fucked up. Is he like, white, interesting Geordi, perhaps? Does a pretty good American accent. I don't trust him, just because he's Jason Isaacs.
"To win the war, of course." Ooh, mysterious. Still, I get the feeling he's concocted this entire situation so he can get Michael on board. I almost wonder if they're going to offer Burnham to the Klingons as weregild, which would also...not be very Star Trek.
Holy shit, a redhead just showed up, +1! I thought her condition would be that she was like autistic or something, but maybe they fixed that in the future. They are commenting on the name Michael now. It makes me feel like they're going to tell us why. It's all goo...wtf is black alert?!
Michael is really bad at apologizing. And fishy is thinkin' she's all fishy. "I intend to do a better job protecting my captain than you did yours." OH SNAP!
Anthony Rapp's dickhead engineer is hilarious. I love him already. He is doing the rival engineer thing that Geordi did too. Interesting.
OK, already breaking in and breaking the rules. This girl must be Ben Sisko's great-grandmother. SPACE GARDEN.
I still don't trust Lorca, he seems like a sneaky fucker. What's his play here? Angry engineer is angry. Really interesting what's happening here, but I'm not entirely sure it's Star Trek.
Fucked up stuff on the other ship, the Glenn. Presumably named after John Glenn?
Ahhh, yes, biogenic weapons. Makes sense. "I live by the principles of the United Federation of Planets." Except that one time, eh Michael? Oh, wait, it's not. This is kind of dumb. Sounds like Transwarp.
Not sure where this is going, but it's getting a little better.
Black Wizard
Pleb Hunter
Here's Hitler's reaction when he found out that Discovery is a prequel. I agree with some points the Fuhrer made about the timeline, but the last couple of sentences are a bit dark so you have been warned.
I think Discovery is good sci-fi and I like the departure from the traditional "let's explore the shit out of everything and break the prime directive" Star Trek. However, I would have preferred this to be set a few decades after Voyager.
I think Discovery is good sci-fi and I like the departure from the traditional "let's explore the shit out of everything and break the prime directive" Star Trek. However, I would have preferred this to be set a few decades after Voyager.
R-rated Quentin Tarantino-directed STAR TREK film is in the works 
This will be crazy. What's the N-word equivalent for Klingons?
This will be crazy. What's the N-word equivalent for Klingons?
There's only ever been one racial slur used by Federation members in Star Trek, and that was "spoonheads" for Cardassians in the DS9 episode Empok Nor.This will be crazy. What's the N-word equivalent for Klingons?
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Anyone aware of Star Trek Renegade, or just Renegades?
Isn't that a fan film?
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Deleted member 7164
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Yes it is, quite good actually. I had the real Star Trek feeling throughout.
There's a 1:30 pilot called Star Trek Renegades and about 30 minutes into first episode "The Requiem" available on Youtube.
Do not be alarmed by bad CGI in beginning, they had to green-screen everything, the space scenes are better.
There's a 1:30 pilot called Star Trek Renegades and about 30 minutes into first episode "The Requiem" available on Youtube.
Do not be alarmed by bad CGI in beginning, they had to green-screen everything, the space scenes are better.
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The main character is quite something
I made a flippant Kobayashi Maru joke in the Brexit thread, but it made me think about how modern Star Trek (be it the JJ movies or Discovery) is noticeably dumber than TNG-thru-Enterprise Star Trek. Here's the example I have that best shows it:
In older Star Trek, when Kirk hacked the Kobayashi Maru test, he was received a special commendation for asymmetrical thinking.
In modern Star Trek, when Kirk hacked the Kobayashi Maru test, he was disciplined and probably would have been expelled.
Another example is in DS9, there was a man who temporarily traded Nog for Sisko's desk so that he could take a picture of himself behind it. When listing off other captains, the obvious thing to do would be to say "He did it with Captain Picard," but the screenwriters put "He's got pictures of him behind the desks of famous captains - like Captain De Soto, and Captain Picard!". The original script also included "Captain Shelby", but like other references to Shelby, that was dropped so they didn't have to pay royalties to the person who wrote The Best of Both Worlds. De Soto was mentioned several times in DS9 as an off-screen example of an exemplary captain.
In Discovery, when Michael Burnham called up a list of "Starfleet's greatest captains" we got a list existing only of known characters - Archer, Georgiou, April, and Pike. Literally 3 captains of the Enterprise and the only other captain from this time we've met in Discovery. It's the dumbest thing I've ever seen. What about Captain Erika Hernandez, who commanded NX-02 Columbia? Or another interim character? It's dumb, dumb Star Trek.
In older Star Trek, when Kirk hacked the Kobayashi Maru test, he was received a special commendation for asymmetrical thinking.
In modern Star Trek, when Kirk hacked the Kobayashi Maru test, he was disciplined and probably would have been expelled.
Another example is in DS9, there was a man who temporarily traded Nog for Sisko's desk so that he could take a picture of himself behind it. When listing off other captains, the obvious thing to do would be to say "He did it with Captain Picard," but the screenwriters put "He's got pictures of him behind the desks of famous captains - like Captain De Soto, and Captain Picard!". The original script also included "Captain Shelby", but like other references to Shelby, that was dropped so they didn't have to pay royalties to the person who wrote The Best of Both Worlds. De Soto was mentioned several times in DS9 as an off-screen example of an exemplary captain.
In Discovery, when Michael Burnham called up a list of "Starfleet's greatest captains" we got a list existing only of known characters - Archer, Georgiou, April, and Pike. Literally 3 captains of the Enterprise and the only other captain from this time we've met in Discovery. It's the dumbest thing I've ever seen. What about Captain Erika Hernandez, who commanded NX-02 Columbia? Or another interim character? It's dumb, dumb Star Trek.
bearfan
Ancient Mariner
I pretty much agree with this, though I cut the movies some slack because they are a different animal and to be successful have to draw in a more general crowd than the TV shows ... and they are self contained.
I think Discovery has been pretty decent, but it is certainly different than the old shows. In part the times (more action and more serial), in part shorter seasons, in part somewhat hemmed in by cannon (though not as much as the later episodes of DS9 that had the movies, TNG, TOS, and to a lesser extent Voyager (because of the Delta Quadrant).
Orville is more in line with 90s Trek than Discovery. Though it is a bit ironic that Berman used to be the destroyer of Trek, now his stuff is held in a lot higher esteem, which it should be considering they did a total of 25 full seasons at 25-ish episodes a season at a pretty high quality overall
I think Discovery has been pretty decent, but it is certainly different than the old shows. In part the times (more action and more serial), in part shorter seasons, in part somewhat hemmed in by cannon (though not as much as the later episodes of DS9 that had the movies, TNG, TOS, and to a lesser extent Voyager (because of the Delta Quadrant).
Orville is more in line with 90s Trek than Discovery. Though it is a bit ironic that Berman used to be the destroyer of Trek, now his stuff is held in a lot higher esteem, which it should be considering they did a total of 25 full seasons at 25-ish episodes a season at a pretty high quality overall
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TNG might be best Trek by a hair but DS9 is just best SF ever.
Well back to present time and Discovery - I can't. I started watching season 2 and everything I thought was bad about this hit me at once - irritating characters, no dynamics, dull story etc. Non interactive bridge crew that's just there for the stunt of showing us that Starfleet is tolerant of rastafari and Bladesque raver girls alike. And Tilly. She shouldn't be near any kind of military hierarchy. Apparently 23rd century humans can't treat hyperactivity. It's bollocks.
Well back to present time and Discovery - I can't. I started watching season 2 and everything I thought was bad about this hit me at once - irritating characters, no dynamics, dull story etc. Non interactive bridge crew that's just there for the stunt of showing us that Starfleet is tolerant of rastafari and Bladesque raver girls alike. And Tilly. She shouldn't be near any kind of military hierarchy. Apparently 23rd century humans can't treat hyperactivity. It's bollocks.
I haven't watched any Season 2. I re-watched S1 to try to get myself in the mood, but it just made me move from "not being sure about Discovery" towards "actively hating Discovery".