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GuineaPig said:
He didn't leave his feet.
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you have got to be kidding... you can clearly see his skates are a good 6 inches off the ground as Horton is hitting the ice. He left his feet.
 
Onhell said:
you have got to be kidding... you can clearly see his skates are a good 6 inches off the ground as Horton is hitting the ice. He left his feet.
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So?  Where are his feet when he first makes contact? 

There's this thing called physics.  And when a 230 lb, 6'2 man runs into you at 50 km/h, he's going to impart some force.
 
if that was the case then NO hit where the player leaves the ice would be illegal. BUT there is a difference between clean hits where the skate will come up and what Rome did. Look at your own clip again. He crouches down and lounges upward, that is NOT a clean open ice hit. He could have just received him with the shoulder and send him flying in similar fashion making contact with Horton's chest, rather than his chin.

I agree Horton is partly to blame for not paying attention, but Rome should not have jumped at him.
 
But he didn't jump at him. 

That hit is a carbon copy of every blue-line crossing.  Hockey players don't just skate into someone when they deliver a body check. 
 
Rome left his feet as a follow through. You are taught to coil your body and get as much of it as you can under you when you deliver a hit.
Habberdasher said:
It was interference and suspension worthy today, because the league has specifically called those hits illegal. I do have to wonder about Stevens, but generally speaking his hits on Kozlov, Lindros, Kariya, etc were timed much better (either the guy had the puck or just dished it). Still the league seems to be trying to have its cake (by showing all of the devastating hits in promotional materials) and eat it too (by trying to suspend non-marquee players when they make such hits).
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Rome made contact 1 second after Horton passed the puck. I watched some of Steven's old hits as a comparison and while the majority of his hits were perfectly timed, the infamous one on Paul Kariya was as late. Four fucking  games is a little much. I think Mike Murphy is trying to make up for the non suspension of Burrows. But as I said earlier, other than the hit being maybe a hair too late, it was not a dirty hit and Horton is as much to blame as Rome is.
 
I think his knees were moving up, and at high speed, it gives the illusion that his feet were left, and that he was preparing to jump.

I love how nobody's called this what it truly is: a Scott Stevens special. That's why Scott Stevens is in the Hall of Fame.
 
In the nice hockey story category
Kane Gets a Championship Puck, From a 10-Year-Old
By JOANNE C. GERSTNER
It’s the dream of nearly every little kid: to have a famous person come to their birthday party.

Matt Cannon, a 10-year-old hockey player who lives in Tonawanda, N.Y., has done one better. He invited Chicago Blackhawks star Patrick Kane to his birthday party last June. And Kane showed up. And here’s the bonus part: the two have now become friends.

Kane hails from Buffalo, a favored hockey son of all western New York.

Cannon recently did a very nice thing for his friend, knowing that Kane has never received the puck from his Stanley Cup-winning goal in 2010. When Kane scored in overtime of Game 6, defeating the Flyers 4-3, the puck disappeared in the crazy melee of joy. He’s continued to search to get it back for his memorabilia collection.

Cannon just had his own experience with winning a title. He scored the game-winning goal for his squirt hockey team, helping it win the Western New York Hockey League title in March. He decided to send the puck to Kane, because he wanted his friend to be happy.

“Matt wanted Patrick to have this puck because he knows Patrick’s winning puck is still missing,” Cannon’s father, Dave, told the Chicago Tribune. “He told me, ‘Patrick has given me so much, so I want to give him the only thing I can that he doesn’t have.’ ”

Kane was very touched. He understood the significance of the gesture, especially coming from a 10-year-old boy. He wanted Cannon to have the important puck for his collection, so he autographed it, “Congratulations on your goal, you should be proud – Patrick Kane 88,” and sent it back to Cannon.

“He gave me his game-winning-goal puck just because I didn’t have mine,” Kane told the Chicago Tribune. “He mailed the puck to my parents’ place. It was pretty cool. (But) it would obviously be nice to have the real thing back.”

Dave is amazed by how everything has turned out, given his son made a far-fetched invite to his birthday party. It seemed logical to Cannon to send an invite to Kane, given the party was being held at a floor hockey facility.

“Every year we have a party, and about mid-May we say to Matt, ‘Who’s going to be on your invitation list?’” Dave said. “Last year, he said he wanted to invite Patrick Kane. So he filled out the invitation, and we sent it. We never thought anything of it — why would you? Imagine our surprise when Patrick Kane walked onto the court.”

Kane proved to be a lovely party guest, bringing autographed items for the kids. And he played some floor hockey with the fathers and sons.

“I thought it would be cool to show up for 10 or 15 minutes, and I ended up staying there for a little bit,” Kane said. “The kids are the most important fans. They’re the future fans, and maybe one day they’ll be playing with us too.”

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Nigel Tufnel said:
Rome left his feet as a follow through. You are taught to coil your body and get as much of it as you can under you when you deliver a hit. Rome made contact 1 second after Horton passed the puck. I watched some of Steven's old hits as a comparison and while the majority of his hits were perfectly timed, the infamous one on Paul Kariya was as late. Four fucking  games is a little much. I think Mike Murphy is trying to make up for the non suspension of Burrows. But as I said earlier, other than the hit being maybe a hair too late, it was not a dirty hit and Horton is as much to blame as Rome is.
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It's not just making up for the Burrows' thing. It's the league taking concussions much more seriously than in the 90s.

Damn you Bearfan, that teared me up :)
 
I understand the league's stance on concussions, but four games is excessive. If it were a hit from behind or a excessively late hit, I could understand. Ii feel they are going to crackdown on any borderline hit like the Rome hit and are going to take the toughness away from the game. The game takes place at a high rate of speed and when a player decides to make a hit, he has less than a split second to do so. All players need to be responsible, especially when crossing the blueline. The first year I played Peewee, that was stressed above anything. When we scrimaged, our coach would have the older kids hit the first year players if they had their heads down. Not a big, bone crusher, but one that would leave you flat on your back.
LooseCannon said:
I think his knees were moving up, and at high speed, it gives the illusion that his feet were left, and that he was preparing to jump.

I love how nobody's called this what it truly is: a Scott Stevens special. That's why Scott Stevens is in the Hall of Fame.
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LMAO.....and that is why Rome got the rest of the season, cause he ain't Scott Stevens
 
I googled Steven's hit on Kariya... NOTHING like Rome's. putting the hits next to each other there is no comparison. Stevens does it well, Rome does not. Not to mention Kariya returned to score the game winner.
 
Kariya got rid of the puck later than Horton did. That was the question I had when I decided to look at some of Steven's hits, was how long after the player dished the puck, that Stevens nailed him. Since that was the reason for such a huge blowback against Rome by the league. I did'nt compare Rome & Steven's technique, just the timing. It was a borderline late hit. It is unfortunate that Horton got injured badly, but as i have stated before, that all players are responsible for their own safety. When a player is admiring his own play, it is very dangerous.

Anyway, I think Tim Thomas is a lock for the Conn Smythe. Win or lose, he has been absolutely the best player in the playoffs.
 
Who from Vancouver is even worthy for consideration? The Sedins have a bunch of points for the whole playoffs, but only 2 in the SCF. Kesler has been invisible at times (is he hurt?). Luongo is on some nights, other nights he is pathetic.

They should give it to Brodeur as a makeup for 2003!
 
Brodeur didn't deserve it in '03.  Well, he deserved it, but Gigeuere deserved it more.

The biggest snub in recent history was Niewendyk over Hasek in '99.
 
That was an ugly 4:14 of the first. I don't know why Allain Vinguealt did not call a time out after the second goal. I still think Vancouver will pull it off. NBC cut to the street that is by Rogers Arena. There were thousands and thousands of Canuck fans. They were dead silent. Game 7 is going to define Roberto Luongo's career.
 
Thomas will surely get the Conn Smyth win or lose now.

I agree, I think Vancouver will win it. Funny, when the Sedin were drafted, the draft took place in Boston. Good to see one of them finally got on the board last night.
 
Vancouver showed some life; if there hadn't been that first period, it was definitely anyone's game. Luongo was bad, though. Straight up bad. However...he's always bounced back hard.

I feel overtime in the next game.
 
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