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[!--QuoteBegin-Pblic enemy nmbr 1+Nov 26 2005, 10:46 PM--][div class=\'quotetop\']QUOTE(Pblic enemy nmbr 1 @ Nov 26 2005, 10:46 PM)[/div][div class=\'quotemain\'][!--QuoteEBegin--]Well I saw that movie a few years ago so i don't remember it so well. But I do remember a killercomputer.
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Your brain capacity was overloaded?
 
Naah, it's been a few years..... Tell you what, i'm gonna rent this movie someday and i'll give you a summary. But like all the movies about a killercomputer, the message is what will happen if the corporations will make an IA who's intelligence will match a humans or even outdo. There's plenty of movies with that kind of message. Noone in the top will ever listen so there's little point in making those messages on purpose.
 
The story is NOT about a killer computer. If that's all you know about this film, then it's really sad.... [!--emo&:huh:--][img src=\'style_emoticons/[#EMO_DIR#]/huh.gif\' border=\'0\' style=\'vertical-align:middle\' alt=\'huh.gif\' /][!--endemo--]
 
[!--QuoteBegin-Pblic enemy nmbr 1+Nov 26 2005, 11:24 PM--][div class=\'quotetop\']QUOTE(Pblic enemy nmbr 1 @ Nov 26 2005, 11:24 PM)[/div][div class=\'quotemain\'][!--QuoteEBegin--]Naah, it's been a few years..... Tell you what, i'm gonna rent this movie someday and i'll give you a summary. But like all the movies about a killercomputer, the message is what will happen if the corporations will make an IA who's intelligence will match a humans or even outdo. There's plenty of movies with that kind of message. Noone in the top will ever listen so there's little point in making those messages on purpose.
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No, that is definitely not the "message" of 2001.
 
[!--QuoteBegin-Ascendancy+Nov 27 2005, 12:12 AM--][div class=\'quotetop\']QUOTE(Ascendancy @ Nov 27 2005, 12:12 AM)[/div][div class=\'quotemain\'][!--QuoteEBegin--]HAL was pretty cool because he could lip read. But the film was about the men on the spaceship going to Jupiter because of those black moniliths, one of which influenced the apes to start using bones as weapons. The monolith  on the moon sent a signal to one on Jupiter which was detected by people down here, so the spaceship was sent out.

The ending confuses the hell out of me though.
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Read the book. Can you read?
 
[!--QuoteBegin-LooseCannon+Nov 26 2005, 08:16 PM--][div class=\'quotetop\']QUOTE(LooseCannon @ Nov 26 2005, 08:16 PM)[/div][div class=\'quotemain\'][!--QuoteEBegin--]I watched Stanley Kubrick's The Shining last night.  It was truly an amazing movie.  Sure it was slow in places, and the main actress was horrifically ugly, but it was a true thriller.  You could really see how Jack descended into insanity.

Jack Nicholson is possibly the best actor of his generation, and this movie proves it.  Especially at the end, when he's going batshit insane.  Just wow.  Although this movie is not faithful to the book (less so as it progresses, the ending is almost entirely different to the book), it's still worth watching in its own right.
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I saw it as well about two weeks ago. Excellent movie although I found some parts quite predictable. Still, no matter what you think of the story, it would be worth watching for the technical aspects only - the camera movements and light effects!

I'm planning to read 2001 sometime soon but since I've got a lot of other books I'd like to read first it might be a few weeks or months [!--emo&;)--][img src=\'style_emoticons/[#EMO_DIR#]/wink.gif\' border=\'0\' style=\'vertical-align:middle\' alt=\'wink.gif\' /][!--endemo--]
 
I still haven't gotten around to reading the shining but I have seen it, while I did like it I'll say this. Stephen King HATED it. He hated the direction Kubrick took it in and he hated Jack Nicholson's acting most of all. In fact he hated it so much he did his own version years later... many years later (1997) with Steven Weber (fans of the sit-com Wings will recognize him.)
 
[!--QuoteBegin-Ascendancy+Nov 28 2005, 05:26 PM--][div class=\'quotetop\']QUOTE(Ascendancy @ Nov 28 2005, 05:26 PM)[/div][div class=\'quotemain\'][!--QuoteEBegin--]Could someone tell me what Maverick just posted there. I'm afraid I can't read what it says. [!--emo&:nana:--][img src=\'style_emoticons/[#EMO_DIR#]/lambada.gif\' border=\'0\' style=\'vertical-align:middle\' alt=\'lambada.gif\' /][!--endemo--]
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Enough is enough! If people are not going to keep on topic and just be smart asses towards each other they shouldn't even post and that goes to you too Maverik. Keep the discussion on movies, books that became movies and why they suck or are great WITHOUT insulting people's intellects in the process, if they are idiots the posts themselves are good enough to prove that, no need to point out the obvious... gees.
 
[!--QuoteBegin-Onhell+Nov 28 2005, 01:57 AM--][div class=\'quotetop\']QUOTE(Onhell @ Nov 28 2005, 01:57 AM)[/div][div class=\'quotemain\'][!--QuoteEBegin--] In fact he hated it so much he did his own version years later... many years later (1997) with Steven Weber (fans of the sit-com Wings will recognize him.)
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I have seen that [!--emo&:D--][img src=\'style_emoticons/[#EMO_DIR#]/biggrin.gif\' border=\'0\' style=\'vertical-align:middle\' alt=\'biggrin.gif\' /][!--endemo--] I rented it out from the video shop thinking it was the most famous version. I remeber it came in two different sections, each very long, I don't remeber much about the movie though. I just remember it being scarier than the original film, but I was about 10 when I watched it [!--emo&:P--][img src=\'style_emoticons/[#EMO_DIR#]/tongue.gif\' border=\'0\' style=\'vertical-align:middle\' alt=\'tongue.gif\' /][!--endemo--]
 
This one's for Maverick who seems to like good movies:

I highly reccomend Trainspotting, it's about this group of guys who are into drugs but the main character Mark Renton (Ewan McGregor), wants to have a different life. I also reccomend a japanese movie called Ichi the Killer (Please see the live action movie, the animated one is just crap), it's kinda weird but I'm sure you'll like it.

Please reccomend me some good movies Mav!!! [!--emo&:D--][img src=\'style_emoticons/[#EMO_DIR#]/biggrin.gif\' border=\'0\' style=\'vertical-align:middle\' alt=\'biggrin.gif\' /][!--endemo--]
 
[!--QuoteBegin-Onhell+Nov 27 2005, 08:57 PM--][div class=\'quotetop\']QUOTE(Onhell @ Nov 27 2005, 08:57 PM)[/div][div class=\'quotemain\'][!--QuoteEBegin--]I still haven't gotten around to reading the shining but I have seen it, while I did like it I'll say this. Stephen King HATED it. He hated the direction Kubrick took it in and he hated Jack Nicholson's acting most of all. In fact he hated it so much he did his own version years later... many years later (1997) with Steven Weber (fans of the sit-com Wings will recognize him.)
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I got A Clockwork Orange (the book) and Anthony Burges also hated it(the movie), he said that this movie made people read only this book because of the movie, and the books he appreciated more were doomed, because people will forget about them, so I think it's a good idea to read more books from this author and see why he likes more these other books than A Clockwork Orange [!--emo&:)--][img src=\'style_emoticons/[#EMO_DIR#]/smile.gif\' border=\'0\' style=\'vertical-align:middle\' alt=\'smile.gif\' /][!--endemo--]
 
I saw Predator on Friday (first time in about 3 months that I watched TV for longer than half an hour). A nice action film, very enjoyable and entertaining. Obviously, the director ignored superfluous things like plot, dialogue, logic and the likes, but we have a lot of tension and action and a pretty satisfying climax (the struggle of Arnold vs the Predator is just great, even if I had to laugh at the fact that this caveman is now a high-ranking politician).
 
Predator is priceless, I had "What the hell are you?" as my msn nick for a while because of that movie hehe.
 
I watched "Alfie" last night, starring Michael Caine. It's a classic movie from the mid 60s about the freedom of sleeping around, and the abuses that comes with it. Alfie could have settled down with his wife and child, but instead treated her like dirt and she ended up marrying somebody else. Alfie had to deal with heartbreak from several other partners, including an illegal abortion. It's one of the strongest films I have ever seen and I strongly recommend it to anyone.
 
It's nota movie, but i'll explain why I'm mentioning it. Futurama.... two nights ago. It was the episode where Fry finds his dog encased in dolomite and wants to clone him, he later decides not to because the dog lived a full life and Fry logically (which is rare for Fry hehe) concludes that it is better to leave his dog dead since he probably forgot him, after all he only owned him for three years before being cryogenically frozen. After that the cartoon makes a flashback to the 2000's showing the dog looking for fry and eventually waiting for him outside the pizzeria he used to work for. He waited for 12 years... dying outside...waiting. Very few cartoons (even shows or movies) have moved me like the ending of this episode did.
 
I watched "A Bronx Tale" the other day. It is a really powerful movie with good messages and a decent cast. (Rebort DeNiro)

It is basically about a guy who is torn between three choices. He has to decide between living the life of crime in the Mafia, earn an honest living like his father, or act like a punk like his friends. He learns the hard way that crime is not the option as his friends are ironically killed during a racist attack, his Mafia boss is assasinated and in the end up, his father is still there to support him. Throughout this, he has to learn the lesson of racism as his girlfriend is black.

Quite humorous at times and yet delivers a very serious message, strongly recommended.
 
[!--QuoteBegin-Conor+Dec 12 2005, 08:32 PM--][div class=\'quotetop\']QUOTE(Conor @ Dec 12 2005, 08:32 PM)[/div][div class=\'quotemain\'][!--QuoteEBegin--] Throughout this, he has to learn the lesson of racism as his girlfriend is black.

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The lesson of racism? what lesson is that? you mean he comes to understand that it is wrong to be racist or how black people get the shaft because of racism..?
 
[!--QuoteBegin-Onhell+Dec 13 2005, 04:53 AM--][div class=\'quotetop\']QUOTE(Onhell @ Dec 13 2005, 04:53 AM)[/div][div class=\'quotemain\'][!--QuoteEBegin--]The lesson of racism? what lesson is that? you mean he comes to understand that it is wrong to be racist or how black people get the shaft because of racism..?
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He has to learn how to cope with racists around him. His friends and society in general "frown upon" inter-racial relationships. The guy in the film has to learn that racism is wrong and that just because society tells him not to go out with the girl, doesn't mean he should stop the relationship.

I realise I badly worded the point in the original post as I was in a rush.
 
[!--QuoteBegin-Metal_made+Nov 28 2005, 09:29 PM--][div class=\'quotetop\']QUOTE(Metal_made @ Nov 28 2005, 09:29 PM)[/div][div class=\'quotemain\'][!--QuoteEBegin--]I got A Clockwork Orange (the book) and Anthony Burges also hated it(the movie), he said that this movie made people read only this book because of the movie, and the books he appreciated more were doomed, because people will forget about them, so I think it's a good idea to read more books from this author and see why he likes more these other books than A Clockwork Orange [!--emo&:)--][img src=\'style_emoticons/[#EMO_DIR#]/smile.gif\' border=\'0\' style=\'vertical-align:middle\' alt=\'smile.gif\' /][!--endemo--]
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That indeed is very odd for Burgess, he was quite miffed about how his reputation as a writer rested solely on that novel. The novel does use a lot more Nadsat however, and also Kubrick wrote the screenplay based on the American version, which was missing the last chapter. Funny how, because the novel is divided into three parts, each having 7 chapters, giving the novel a sense of symmetry. Oh well, can't change history...
 
I re-saw The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy last night (I got the DVD for my birthday). I still think it's an excellent film!

I also saw an excellent Swedish comedy called Skenbart (Seemingly). The movie takes place on a train to Berlin in 1945 with a very original set of passengers; a doctor who plans to murder his wife, an idealistic author who wants to help "building the new Europe", but whose every good intent turns into a disaster, and an ever-optimistic Swedish soldier to mention a few. The script is wonderful and unpredictable and it contains some of Sweden's best actors. I don't know if it's available outside Sweden but if you can get hold of it it's well worth watching!
 
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