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jazz from hell said:
I grew up with Jon Bon Jovi, because my sister used to have him on every wall of her room for years (preferably with long hair).
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Funny how people react differently. The above sentence is true for my sister as well; as a result - I can't take Bon Jovi seriously and mostly dislike their music.
 
I'd never say I was a fan of Bon Jovi (and certainly not a fangirl) but one thing I've noticed over the years is that in various events I've attended, when they've been playing music over the PA before the event starts, when a Bon Jovi song comes on the crowd suddenly comes to life. Anything that makes people smile can't be bad, I think :)
 
Bon Jovi for me is ok. It's that sort of mid 80s American "hard rock" that was glam-ized all the way but unlike other hair bands I don't consider Bon Jovi annoying or cringe. But I never saw anything interesting in that band that would make me want to listen to their albums, therefore I don't know anything apart from their big anthem hits.
 
Black Abyss Babe said:
From my understanding this is the "American Dream" in a nutshell
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The American Dream is that if you are hardworking/creative/assertive enough you can move up the socioeconomic ladder no matter what your background is. It's essentially the ethos of liberalism.

It sounds like a "D'uh" statement in the world of today, at least in the West, because liberal values have been embraced across the West at varying levels, but back when it was formulated it was the product of a very recent revolution against established social classes, thus the notion of it being a "Dream".
 
I was on course for an awkward trip to the airport on Saturday morning for a flight to San Francisco, but I just realised the flight is on Sunday morning instead. Good thing I realized now!

When I asked for the flights I specified Saturday 8th December which is actually Sunday, so it's my own fault. :facepalm:
 
The Flash said:
The American Dream is that if you are hardworking/creative/assertive enough you can move up the socioeconomic ladder no matter what your background is.
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Exactly. So conversely, if you fail it's no-one's fault but your own. The idea that someone else's bad decisions could have the power to ruin everything for everyone isn't really part of the picture.

Furthermore (and it's fair to point out that I'm not American, so everything I have on this is anecdotal) its application in practice seems to have to do with white picket fences and wives who stay home all their lives, not having any aspirations of their own. Think "The Wonder Years" ...
 
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