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JudasMyGuide said:
BTW Meshuggah are one of the bands I definitely respect, but cannot really enjoy. Any single song is great (and the video is funny, I admit), but I just can't get through the whole album. I never had such problem even with even more stylistically cohesive bands like Suffocation. Don't know why.
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This is my favorite Meshuggah song, bar none. Don't care how much of their otherwise way more complex stuff they have. This is the Meshuggah song I can listen to again and again and again...From 1994....Back then they were just ordinary thrash really, it's thrash with some progressive ideas. That's it. Not fucking "Djent".--


 
JudasMyGuide said:
Still, then Symph X could be djent. Dream Theater could be djent. Dead on Time by Queen could be djent. I know I'm being a dick, but I still fail to understand what the genre is supposed to be, even after watching YouTube tutorials. :D Never mind.
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This is the problem, it isn't really a genre. I wouldn't classify AAL as djent, they just came from the same scene as a lot of the modern djent bands and have some similar musical qualities. Periphery (the other leading Djent band) are more of a mix of metalcore and progressive metal. Even the members of these bands don't consider djent a real genre or style. Messhugah is just prog metal.
 
Mosh said:
This is the problem, it isn't really a genre. I wouldn't classify AAL as djent, they just came from the same scene as a lot of the modern djent bands and have some similar musical qualities. Periphery (the other leading Djent band) are more of a mix of metalcore and progressive metal. Even the members of these bands don't consider djent a real genre or style. Messhugah is just prog metal.
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You know, I had already thought the Metal Archives policy ("This is not metal, this is djent, therefore it's not allowed in the Archives") was quite silly, but this post of yours made it downright hilarious.

I have heard Periphery before (isn't Petrucci's godson or whoever playing with them?) and although they're really not my cup of tea, they sound really nice anyway... and again, completely different to both Meshuggah or AAL.

And yeah, the name and its origin makes the matter even stupider than it already was.
 
Yea Jake Bowen is Petrucci's nephew. He actually makes decent electronic music. To Periphery's credit, I think they managed to create an audience for themselves without riding on Petrucci's coattails. I didn't realize there was a relation until after the band had become famous.

I have mixed views on Periphery. The first two albums were really popular with a few of my Metal loving friends in high school and I could enjoy them in small doses. I loved the Juggernaut albums. To me that signaled them transcending the whole "djent" thing and doing something interesting that could stand up with any other progressive metal act. The album they put out this year shattered any hopes of that though. Horrible album that is even less creative than their early work.
 
Djent is the name of the chugging sound. The genre is synonymous with bands that incorporate that sound into their mix. Meshuggah were the first band to really go to town with that style, so "djent" bands are almost always Meshuggah rip offs.

So in reality, calling a style of music "djent" is like calling Maiden's style "harmonies" or Metallica's style "palm muting".
 
Pretty much. Lots of bands who would never be considered part of that genre have attempted to djent. Dream Theater being a big one. I wouldn't go as far as to call them all Meshuggah ripoffs, some of them are way too accessible for that distinction.
 
Mosh said:
Pretty much. Lots of bands who would never be considered part of that genre have attempted to djent. Dream Theater being a big one.
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Exactly. There's a lot of chuggy djenty stuff in DT's material but no one ever uses 'djent' to define them.

Travis The Dragon said:
Has Maiden ever done anything that has a djent sound to it?
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Nah, Maiden don't really utilise heavy palm muted chugging riffs at all. Instead, they have used galloping rhythms a lot, like in The Trooper.
 
I think it's more likely we hear Bruce Dickinson rap than Maiden djenting.
 
Should've added this to a previous post but the intro in The Mirror is djent right there. The term is just associated more with, I don't know, metalcore bands? Stuff that has growling/screaming vocals, breakdowns and so on.

 
The Flash said:
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I was thinking Age of Innocence but this works too.

The Mirror is a cool example of djent before djent was a thing. Using the same riff but changing the accents around is a staple of that sort of thing. The breakdowns and screaming is more why I consider a lot of those djent bands a mix of metalcore and prog metal. That's really all it is. The djenting is just a product of it.
 
Saapanael said:
Exactly. There's a lot of chuggy djenty stuff in DT's material but no one ever uses 'djent' to define them.
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As I've said before, "chug" has a different meaning in Scotland than it does elsewhere. However, "chugging" is arguably something that John Petrucci does with his guitar and Jordan Rudess with his keyboard and continuum fingerboard.
 
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