Iron Maiden Survivor 2013: Results Thread - Hallowed reclaims the throne!

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Forostar said:
Again: this doesn't have to be decisive, but I am sure that a measure of exposure can help one's appreciation.
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Sure, but honestly I think it has very little to do with survivor results. I could see your point if we were a bunch of casual Iron Maiden fans but we're not. We're able to think critically and form our own opinions on songs without letting the amount of live play or appearance on DVD's be a factor. If this wasn't the case, the top ten would just be filled with setlist staples. Many of which are missing.
 
I agree with Mosh on this one.
This is a hardcore bunch when it comes to Maiden. We all know the catalogue inside and out.
If anything, I think we are more prone to discount a song because of its popularity.

Iron Maiden, Running Free, Run to The Hills, the Trooper, 2 Minutes, Can I Play With Madness, Fear of the Dark - these are band staples. when is the last time any got sniff of our top 10?

The only exceptions I can think of are Hallowed and Wasted Years.
 
mckindog said:
We all know the catalogue inside and out.
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But the band does different things with that catalogue. Listening and knowing albums is one thing, but what the band does with these songs also counts. Of course it isn't as formulaic as described above, and we don't look at what is popular and then "decide" what we like best.

We see what we see and hear what we hear. We experience things. And some impressions land and work subconsciously. I remember that the popularity of Rime increased on this forum since 2008. More positive talk and it could match battles with Paschendale and Hallowed, two uncrowned leaders up to that point. Look at Seventh Son. I don't know by heart but we can compare its popularity with previous years.

Of course there are songs that don't reach the top 10 because some people really get tired of them. Too much exposure, over more years than the recent ones I talked about.

I am afraid it won't be the last time we're discussing this. I think it's good that we don't get angry about it, at least.
 
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That exposure thing has solid points (I got sick of The Trooper after a while because I listened to it all too often as a beginner) but it has absolutely nothing to do with being played live or not. The Trooper's overplayedness had nothing to do with my appreciation, I overplayed it myself then it all came back to neutral stance. I do the same thing with every song, it helps me get to know of the actual quality of it, not the first impressions.
 
The played live aspect -let alone live aspect itself- might not play a role with you because you have not seen Maiden live yet. You can't have a feeling of overplayedness by the band, at least not in concert. Perhaps you find that some songs are (too) often released on CD or DVD.

Experiencing a song, e.g. The Trooper, in a real concert is an entirely different experience than all other forms.
 
I may have misread where you were going with this.

If your point is that a neglected song can get a surge in popularity after being showcased, then I do agree. I think it is possible that Afraid and Seventh Son may have enjoyed a bump in popularity from the last tour; the latter is higher on my list now for sure. Priest fans talk about Starbreaker more now after they yanked it from the vault.

A hardcore fan isn't going to be swayed by greatest hits packages and such. They aren't going to make you like a song, but sometimes external forces can cause you to pay more attention to a song.
 
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I think The Trooper is a good song and all, but I simply prefer the epics. Songs like Sign of the Cross or Paschendale, with their multiple twisting riffs and sections... The Trooper just doesn't compare. Yes, that main harmonized riff is iconic, but the song as a whole doesn't have the depth of many of the band's epics. Great karaoke song, but when I'm listening I'd rather hear something more epic.
 
Forostar said:
The played live aspect -let alone live aspect itself- might not play a role with you because you have not seen Maiden live yet.
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I have seen Maiden live. I don't feel anything special regarding to the songs that were played in my first live show experience. I like them just as I liked them before. My favorite Maiden song is a song that has never been played live. Where's that exposure thing you're talking about?

I honestly don't get how a song being released on a compilation album can effect a person who has already heard the songs more than 200 times (random number) each.
 
mckindog said:
I may have misread where you were gong with this.

If your point is that a neglected song can get a surge in popularity after being showcased, then I do agree. I think it is possible that Afraid and Seventh Son may have enjoyed a bump in popularity from the last tour; the latter is higher on my list now for sure. Priest fans talk about Starbreaker more now after they yanked it from the vault.

A hardcore fan isn't going to be swayed by greatest hits packages and such. They aren't going to make you like a song, but sometimes external forces can cause you to pay more attention to a song.
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Yep. Seeing something played live may definitely inspire me to revisit it, but that's it. I'm not going to like a song more just because it's played live a lot or because it is on a lot of compilations.
 
Forostar said:
Experiencing a song, e.g. The Trooper, in a real concert is an entirely different experience than all other forms.
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This, I agree with wholeheartedly. Although I don't feel it contributes in any way to my enjoyment of "Wasted Years", (because I've never seen it played, I simply like it), it is a valid point.
 
I've seen Wasted Years live once, on the Maiden England tour. To be completely honest I don't remember a lot from it, there were a lot of other memorable moments at that concert. It's still one of my favorite songs though.
 
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