Iron Maiden studio album 17 rumours and speculations

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Please, it's obviously the title of their next album, themed around the yet-again-current topic of virtual reality. Also it's a triple. Hence Virtual XL!
 
These days I re-listened all of the NPFTD album - and for me, it is really underrated ! The songs are not that long and only Mother Russia is over 5 minutes ! But as a first album with Janick is a really good one ! I always thought that the song Fates Warning is a leftover from the SSOASS album - it has that kind of vibe ! like The Prophecy song - but that's not strange, Dave wrote them !
Maiden should do these style of songs for the next album - not that long with 2 or 3 epics and 2 over 5 minutes and the rest at about 4 minutes !
I like the long songs, but enough of them !
 
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Kalata said:
I always thought that the song Fates Warning is a leftover from the SSOASS album - it has that kind of vibe ! like The Prophecy song - but that's not strange, Dave wrote them !
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Interesting theory. Fates Warning definitely feels much closer to predecessor albums than most of the songs on NPFTD, but I guess it has more to do with the fact that Dave (and Steve) wrote it and yeah... It's pretty straighforward song anyway, very good one though! :D I doubt it's a leftover, but it might have been among the first songs they actually wrote for NPFTD; I can't recall if there has been that much info considering the writing of Fates Warning anyway.

Kalata said:
Maiden should do these style of songs for the next album - not that long with 2 or 3 epics and 2 over 5 minutes and the rest at about 4 minutes !
I like the long songs, but enough of them !
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Well I can see what you mean. The long songs on TBOS are pretty brilliant, although TRATB for example is indeed a bit dragging, but I enjoy the atmosphere anyway, it doesn't feel that long. In any case, I wouldn't mind seeing more shorter songs, if they end up being equal or even better than songs like Tears of a Clown, Man of Sorrows, Coming Home, Rainmaker etc. Then again, all I care for is quality songs regardless the lenght. I loved TBOS as it is, it's a very good double album and despite a couple of minor or even major (depending on personal preferences) issues it sounds very fresh and inspired with a couple of amazing efforts like If Eternity Should Fail, The Book of Souls and Empire of Clouds; in that regard it might sound a bit funny to say this, but since the next album might actually really be their last, it would be kinda cool if it had 8 to 9 songs only. Give the production a bit more polish than what was on TBOS, which was a step to the right direction anyway, and just a little bit of more focus on execution of all the ideas and the performance and there you go, a brilliant and compact album to go with. :)

I don't think TBOS had any real fillers and I really like every single song on it; the same goes for TFF, (and AMOLAD is one of their best records) it just lacked something and didn't have quite as brilliant vibe. But since they have proven to be able to still write such a brilliant songs, I can't help but think how tight of a masterpiece they could still create. As I stated, I absolutely love TBOS. But if it were just 9 track album, it would have worked pretty well like that too.

1. If Eternity Should Fail
2. Speed of Light
3. The Great Unknown
4. The Red and the Black
5. Death or Glory
6. The Book of Souls
7. Tears of a Clown
8. Man of Sorrows
9. Empire of the Clouds

Not saying there's anything wrong with Shadows of the Valley or When the River Runs Deep. I'm just pointing out they could easily pull of another 8-9-track masterpiece to close their recording career with. :D But yeah, I have no issue with longer songs and albums anyway, if they manage to keep it at the same level as it is, but after three rather long albums, it wouldn't hurt to do something a bit more compact yet very indelible and everything. In any case, I believe the next one will be great album as well. After TFF, as much as I enjoyed it anyway, I wasn't too sure about what to expect after that... But they managed to sound so inspired on TBOS that I believe they'll have that good vibe with the next one too. TFF and TBOS are not perfect or quite as good as AMOLAD, but they definitely prove that the band still has a lot of great ideas going around. It's just a matter of execution and effort these days... With everything, really.
 
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I prefer the long, progressive songs at this point in Maiden's career. We'll always have the 80s and early 90s for the short songs. I want Maiden to blow it all out and go way over the top in the last years of their career. The last couple of albums are what I want to hear more of. The indulgence of The Red and the Black is a perfect example of what I want - more, more, more!
 
Operations666 said:
I prefer the long, progressive songs at this point in Maiden's career.
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This. Of course opinions considering individual songs may vary, but in general, this is where Maiden is very good at the moment. But giving treats like Tears of a Clown is pretty cool as well, I wouldn't mind hearing these mid-tempo rockers or something like Rainmaker or The Man of Sorrows on the next one too.
 
Randalf said:
Interesting theory. Fates Warning definitely feels much closer to predecessor albums than most of the songs on NPFTD, but I guess it has more to do with the fact that Dave (and Steve) wrote it and yeah... It's pretty straighforward song anyway, very good one though! :D I doubt it's a leftover, but it might have been among the first songs they actually wrote for NPFTD; I can't recall if there has been that much info considering the writing of Fates Warning anyway.



Well I can see what you mean. The long songs on TBOS are pretty brilliant, although TRATB for example is indeed a bit dragging, but I enjoy the atmosphere anyway, it doesn't feel that long. In any case, I wouldn't mind seeing more shorter songs, if they end up being equal or even better than songs like Tears of a Clown, Man of Sorrows, Coming Home, Rainmaker etc. Then again, all I care for is quality songs regardless the lenght. I loved TBOS as it is, it's a very good double album and despite a couple of minor or even major (depending on personal preferences) issues it sounds very fresh and inspired with a couple of amazing efforts like If Eternity Should Fail, The Book of Souls and Empire of Clouds; in that regard it might sound a bit funny to say this, but since the next album might actually really be their last, it would be kinda cool if it had 8 to 9 songs only. Give the production a bit more polish than what was on TBOS, which was a step to the right direction anyway, and just a little bit of more focus on execution of all the ideas and the performance and there you go, a brilliant and compact album to go with. :)

I don't think TBOS had any real fillers and I really like every single song on it; the same goes for TFF, (and AMOLAD is one of their best records) it just lacked something and didn't have quite as brilliant vibe. But since they have proven to be able to still write such a brilliant songs, I can't help but think how tight of a masterpiece they could still create. As I stated, I absolutely love TBOS. But if it were just 9 track album, it would have worked pretty well like that too.

1. If Eternity Should Fail
2. Speed of Light
3. The Great Unknown
4. The Red and the Black
5. Death or Glory
6. The Book of Souls
7. Tears of a Clown
8. Man of Sorrows
9. Empire of the Clouds

Not saying there's anything wrong with Shadows of the Valley or When the River Runs Deep. I'm just pointing out they could easily pull of another 8-9-track masterpiece to close their recording career with. :D But yeah, I have no issue with longer songs and albums anyway, if they manage to keep it at the same level as it is, but after three rather long albums, it wouldn't hurt to do something a bit more compact yet very indelible and everything. In any case, I believe the next one will be great album as well. After TFF, as much as I enjoyed it anyway, I wasn't too sure about what to expect after that... But they managed to sound so inspired on TBOS that I believe they'll have that good vibe with the next one too. TFF and TBOS are not perfect or quite as good as AMOLAD, but they definitely prove that the band still has a lot of great ideas going around. It's just a matter of execution and effort these days... With everything, really.
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Shadows of the Valley is my favorite song from TBOS album ! But you're right - the same is with NPFTD - if it was 8 songs, not 10, I think it would be a classic album o_O:D - remove, to say, PENO and HIY - they are good songs , but if I have to remove 2, they are ! Yeah, I honestly think that NPFTD album is a really good one !!!

And the same is with FOTD album - remove the 3 worst songs on it (FITK,TA,WW) and one of TF or COM - and it is a classic album by any means !
The same can say for TFF and DOD !!!

I also like the long epic songs, but I want songs like Rainmaker, The Wicker Man, Wasted Years, Futureal - I know Maiden can still write that type of songs :)
 
You really did pick the one Kalata. Public Enema is one of the best NPFTD tracks.
 
Zare said:
You really did pick the one Kalata. Public Enema is one of the best NPFTD tracks.
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Yeah, but as I said above, different people, different opinions ! :) For me, The Assassin is one of the best NPFTD tracks and I like it more than Public Enema Number One !
 
Fates Warning, BYDTTS, NPFTD, Mother Russia, Public Enema Number One, Tailgunner, holy shit, it's a pretty good album. Who would have thought?
 
NPFTD is definitely a very good album ! ;)
The title track and BYD... TTS are the best from the album, for me !
 
Perun said:
Fates Warning, BYDTTS, NPFTD, Mother Russia, Public Enema Number One, Tailgunner, holy shit, it's a pretty good album. Who would have thought?
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Mother Russia is not a good song, tho. If it were, they would play it live. It is the only "longer" track off the album all others are very short, and they didn't do it. They put HBTN in the place. Actually MR is contender for the worst Harris epic, based on one riff, some nice lyrics and a blatant ripoff of an epic masterpiece title track of an album that No Prayer was destined to be opposite to.

I would also put RSRD in that list of yours, for me the most imaginative moment of the whole record are the bass water bubbles at the beginning of the instrumental section.
 
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I would also put RSRD in that list of yours, for me the most imaginative moment of the whole record are the bass water bubbles at the beginning of the instrumental section.
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Never heard the bass part that way. Quite a good description.
 
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