Magnus
Pica Serdica
It's a bloody disgrace, that's what it is.
IRON MAIDEN REFERENDUM 2020: Results -> Hallowed Be Thy Name wins for the 5th time!
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Dr. Eddies Wingman
Brighter than thousand_suns
OK, let's just get the ...ehrm, less stellar stuff from NPFTD out of the way first, then take the more difficult decisions later.
The Assassin, Hooks In You, Public Enema, Tailgunner, Bring Your Daughter, and Holy Smoke.
The Assassin, Hooks In You, Public Enema, Tailgunner, Bring Your Daughter, and Holy Smoke.
We're currently on course for the following to be eliminated:
Hooks in You
The Assassin
Holy Smoke
Wasting Love
Bring Your Daughter... To the Slaughter
Hooks in You
The Assassin
Holy Smoke
Wasting Love
Bring Your Daughter... To the Slaughter
KidInTheDark666
What's yours is mine and what's mine is mine too
Holy Smoke is a great song. Totally underrated here.
I am curious as to your theory.
Magnus
Pica Serdica
Pity about The Assassin, which I think is one of the best songs on NPFTD musically. If it weren't for the lyrics, chorus included, I expect it wouldn't have collected so many negative votes.
Actually - purely musically again - the five songs from No Prayer to Run Silent are the strongest part of the album for me.
Actually - purely musically again - the five songs from No Prayer to Run Silent are the strongest part of the album for me.
karljant
Ancient Mariner
I like it a lot also but it's too rock n' roll even for a stripped down album as No Prayer. It would give an excellent B side though. I know maiden never did it before but I would include Sway's All In Your Mind cover in the album (one of the best covers they ever done) and Holy Smoke and Hooks In You would be B' sides.
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There's actually something very interesting going on in parts of the song, I can agree with that, and if you mentally pull out the lyrics/vocals, you can hear a little something that sounds like it was left off of Seventh Son. But the vocals are so fucking bad, ugh.
Magnus
Pica Serdica
True that.
karljant
Ancient Mariner
It's a really solid song like Run Silent, Mother Russia, Fates Warning and even PENO.
P.s. : don't be mean to Bring Your Daughter
Voted for For The Greater Good Of God, The Legacy, Judas Be My Guide, Tailgunner, Public Enema Number One, Fates Warning, Run Silent Run Deep and Hooks In You.
Magnus
Pica Serdica
I hate it, sorry. From the very first time I heard it 30 years ago, I hate it with a vengeance.P.s. : don't be mean to Bring Your Daughter
Actually, now that I think about it, this is true of a lot of this album. There's a lot of songs that have something closer to the SSOASS guitar feel with a worse production and no synth. It kinda reminds me of seeing Judas Priest play Turbo Lover live without synths. It probably contributes significantly to the feeling of "wrongness" I get when listening to the album.
karljant
Ancient Mariner
Yup... and even worst than that is Bruce's take on the title track. It hurts a cool track a lot. On the FETE's live version it sounds really great thanks to a much better performance by Bruce
karljant
Ancient Mariner
You hate like your Maiden lowest point that should never ever be created? Like Weekend Warrior, The Apparition, TAATG and Gangland sound like the trumpets of heaven next to it? (in other words like what I feel for Fear Is The Key)
Magnus
Pica Serdica
And I'd like to point out that, since I heard it on a pirated tape in 1990 - which was the norm for this kind of music in Bulgaria - I had no idea who wrote it, or what for, or any such additional info, so I think I was totally free of any bias.
This, and Holy Smoke, were the worst things I had heard from my favourite band so far.
Of course, I was in for another surprise two years later, but that's another story.
karljant
Ancient Mariner
Yup. And not only the guitar also the bass: The Assassin, Fates Warning, Tailgunner, Mother Russia and PENO are definitely on that lot. On the other hand Run Silent has some traits of Powerslave.
Magnus
Pica Serdica
Was writing meanwhile, sure there was worse to come.You hate like your Maiden lowest point that should never ever be created? Like Weekend Warrior, The Apparition, TAATG and Gangland sound like the trumpets of heaven next to it? (in other words like what I feel for Fear Is The Key)
Gangland is decent btw.
Dr. Eddies Wingman
Brighter than thousand_suns
There are many songs on NPFTD that have parts that I like, but there isn't a single song that I consider as being close to Maiden's best standards. And some, like Hooks In You and The ASsassin, have parts that drag them down to the bottom shelf of Maiden's oeuvre. Or maybe rather to the bin next to the shelf.
karljant
Ancient Mariner
Ahahahahah damn dude you really can't stand them.
Oh man... that makes two of us! And something tells me there's more out there.