Guitar Hero Iron Maiden!!!!!

What are two gypsies doing in front of college? They stink.

There. Actually, it's quite funny.

Here's a freebie; illyrian tribes were notorious for their smell. Notably, nobody of 'em ever had anything which bares close resemblance to bath, in their whole lives. So when they went against Romans, the Romans smelled them from miles away. Then the Romans laid down couple of hundreds of kg's worth food on one field. Illyrians saw the food, eaten it all, and went to sleep. Next morning Romans just slaughtered them all in their "beds".
 
If a game developer/publisher has to stoop to that level, they lose all respect in my opinion. I still haven't gotten over EA sticking this on the Red Alert 3 cover:
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Zare said:
What are two gypsies doing in front of college? They stink.

There. Actually, it's quite funny.
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Okay, it's enough now, Zare.

Forostar said:
I don't recall anyone ever being banned for remarks about homosexuality, but it could have been in the period when I was not an active user.
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I don't remember if it was before you were an active user, but I do remember doing so. It just never got much attention because nobody made a fuss out of it.
 
Onhell said:
Yes they do.

@Ardius, what exactly is wrong with that cover?
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Seriously?

Ok, lets see. Firstly, the rediculousness of having hot pants and no body armour on a battlefield - I can overlook this though because it is a game. What really annoys me is that they are stooping to the level of attracting gamers through the use of scantily clad women on the front artwork. The game series never used to need to do that, it was a respectable quality game series. Why do they feel the need to be putting bimbos all over the game? 
In my opinion its a shallow and cheap way of selling your game. This reason alone stopped me buying it even though they did pick some great actors for the cast like Tim Curry.

I hate the obsession with current video game developers and publishers to stick huge boobs everywhere and make all women in games move around with wobbling bits. I fully aim to avoid this entirely when I go about creating my own games.
 
This just in: men like boobies. Film at eleven.

Ardius, it's called the game industry for a reason. It's all about making money. While game development is certainly an art, the developers don't make the covers. Marketing departments make those, and it's their job to make money. Sex sells, and so they use it. That's life.
 
Personally, I don't see what is so wrong about putting a pair of boobs on the cover of a war game. Seriously, it's not like this sort of game is a dramatisation of Plato's Symposium (although you could argue whether boobs would be appropriate there too). It's a game about American tanks shooting at Russian tanks, and in my eyes that's not art, it's entertainment, on a pretty crude level to begin with. So sticking boobs on isn't really lowering the bar at all. Not that I'm saying they're bad games- just that they're not exactly a highlight of the history of Western Civilisation.

I don't know enough about computer games to say which ones qualify as art and which ones don't. I remember Myst being a game that was all the rage, but I also now that people now look back at it and wonder what all the fuss was about. All I can say is that I have problems identifying something which has tanks and planes shooting at each other for its objective to be of such high culture that you can't put a pair of boobs on it.
 
Interesting to note that this thread has now turned to a third topic, and still isn't madness yet.

I could be really obnoxious and jack the thread back to the original topic...

When I play Frets On Fire (a Guitar Hero clone, for those who don't know), I prefer songs with melodic riffs instead of chunking chords. It's less fun to hold down a couple buttons and keep on picking; it's more fun to have some left-hand movement. So the best Maiden songs for such a game would be ones with melodies as main riffs, like...

Phantom Of The Opera
Children Of The Damned (fingerpicked chords are also fun on these games)
Hallowed Be Thy Name
The Trooper
Aces High
Wasted Years
Infinite Dreams
Paschendale (chordy, but still with a lot of motion ... and do you really think I can fail to mention PASCHENFUCKINGDALE BROTHER AMEN! in any Maiden song list?)

By contrast, some songs I'd avoid:
Rime Of The Ancient Mariner
The Number Of The Beast
Can I Play With Madness
Run To The Hills

There. Now someone else can jack the thread! :innocent:
 
I played Guitar Hero once, two weeks ago. It was at the place of a friend's boyfriend. It was great fun, and I was looking forward to the big session we had planned.

Unfortunately, they broke up today, so I guess that's scrapped.
 
SinisterMinisterX said:
This just in: men like boobies. Film at eleven.

Ardius, it's called the game industry for a reason. It's all about making money. While game development is certainly an art, the developers don't make the covers. Marketing departments make those, and it's their job to make money. Sex sells, and so they use it. That's life.
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Yes, don't I know it. Thats my point - I hate this typical way of going about the average video game these days. I realise it affects everything, but it has a much stronger presence in video games. It came out of nowhere too (the 90s was where it started) and has come to be part of the negative image games have nowadays. Its unnecessary and horribly stereotypical.

Perun said:
Personally, I don't see what is so wrong about putting a pair of boobs on the cover of a war game. Seriously, it's not like this sort of game is a dramatisation of Plato's Symposium (although you could argue whether boobs would be appropriate there too). It's a game about American tanks shooting at Russian tanks, and in my eyes that's not art, it's entertainment, on a pretty crude level to begin with. So sticking boobs on isn't really lowering the bar at all. Not that I'm saying they're bad games- just that they're not exactly a highlight of the history of Western Civilisation.

I don't know enough about computer games to say which ones qualify as art and which ones don't. I remember Myst being a game that was all the rage, but I also now that people now look back at it and wonder what all the fuss was about. All I can say is that I have problems identifying something which has tanks and planes shooting at each other for its objective to be of such high culture that you can't put a pair of boobs on it.
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I guess thats the way EA thinks about it too. I agree, no its not exactly art. But at the same time I don't like a game series having sex tagged on just to sell it.
But I think for me it just sums up the amount of effort thats been put into the game. If they have to resort to such marketing techniques just to sell their game, they clearly don't have a game worth buying in the first place.


I know from personal experience that all computer games take vast amounts of effort and time to create, even games like these crappy every-year sports games and Guitar Hero spin-offs take at least a couple of years of rediculous overtime to start and finish. Because of this, naturally many developers and publishers look for the quickest and cheapest way to produce a game with the least effort.

For the hell of it, a couple of games I'd probably consider "arty":
Ico, Okami and Little Big Planet.
 
Let's put it this way: I walk through the computer game department of my electronic stores every once in a while to see if there is anything that could gather my interest (although I haven't bought a computer game in seven years or so). Among the things I'm sure to find en masse is covers with tanks on them. Among those masses, I'd probably at least notice a chick with guns, even if I'd pass it by anyway.

But I understand your frustration with it. A lot of hard work goes into a computer game, but in the end, a flashy cover picture decides on whether it is being bought or not. Of course, that's not fair. In a world that is so short-lived as that of computer games (which is why I don't engage in it), it's hard to make people see something special.
 
Perun said:
Let's put it this way: I walk through the computer game department of my electronic stores every once in a while to see if there is anything that could gather my interest (although I haven't bought a computer game in seven years or so). Among the things I'm sure to find en masse is covers with tanks on them. Among those masses, I'd probably at least notice a chick with guns, even if I'd pass it by anyway.

But I understand your frustration with it. A lot of hard work goes into a computer game, but in the end, a flashy cover picture decides on whether it is being bought or not. Of course, that's not fair. In a world that is so short-lived as that of computer games (which is why I don't engage in it), it's hard to make people see something special.
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Its not just the cover art though...it goes deeper. Like I said earlier, rediculous size female parts in the games themselves, the general depiction of women in video games is disgusting. I'm usually the last person to be taking a stand over how female's are treated, but they go too far in some games.
This combined with the lack of effort makes me very sad inside to see people raving about such games and so easily overlooking such glaring issues. Maybe as a games programmer/designer myself I see a lot more where effort is and isn't made but even so, the very fact people react to my post and think "so? its a video game" says to me there is something very wrong with how the industry is viewed by the general public.

So bringing this back to my original post in this thread - the difference in not only graphical quality but even in technology shows that Harmonix is putting far, far more effort in than Neversoft in their music games. So if I saw a Guitar Hero: Iron Maiden I would think "what could have been?". It would be the same as the token effort that was Ed Hunter, poorly made and just a cash-in on a current fad. Rather than an attempt to actually provide a new entertainment platform like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgPUqMQU7Vk
 
Some games.  The important thing here is some games.  Most games I play are absolutely fine.  Yes, they may animate breasts a little more than other parts, but usually it's not obscene, or any worse than putting a girl with breast implants on TV.  Most games I play are like that, some of course aren't.
 
In Croatia, we don't buy games. We download them from the Internet. Aargh!
 
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