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Portnoy needs to learn to shut up. If he can't make a graceful comment this many months after he left, he's got some serious problems. Dumping that on the press and his fans just makes him look like an ass.
 
SinisterMinisterX said:
Portnoy needs to learn to shut up. If he can't make a graceful comment this many months after he left, he's got some serious problems. Dumping that on the press and his fans just makes him look like an ass.
I agree, he has made a lot of unthoughtful comments. Did you guys hear about the whole "liking" scandal on facebook? MP fans posted on his wall comments like "DT is not DT without you Mike" and even "Mangini Sucks", stuff like that and MP went through and liked these comments. Stupid decision.
 
http://www.mikeportnoy.com/forum/tm.asp ... 65#2695537

more lyrics revealed:

Just read an interview in the dutch magazine 'Aardschok'. Some things:

-"On the Backs of Angels" is about the battle between the left and right politics in America
- "Lost not Forgotten" describes the Perzion (perzische in dutch) warriors that fought a lot in history, but were you don't hear about anymore lately
-"Outcry" is about the revolution that's going on in North-Africa.

It are subjects Petrucci reads about.

-"Build me Up, Break me Down" is about people who glorify there idols when they do something well when it goes about artistic reasons, but criticize them when something goes less well because of personal reasons. He names Britney Spears as example
-"This is the Life" is about people who often look at what others have which make them think others have it better. It only makes people unhappy. You're given a life and you have to make the best of it. He knows it is a little of a cliche :p but that doesn't make the message less important. This song was already written by Petrucci at his home.
-"Far from Heaven" is a pianoballad and the text is written by James LaBrie. his inspiration came from the movie "Far from heaven"
-it's already known Myung wrote the text for "Breaking all Illusions". Petrucci states he wrote it really poetical and took a long tike to make a songtext of it

Petrucci read the comments about the drums on "On the Backs of Angles" being to low. He says people are crazy :p haha

The merchandise is made by an outside company, were Portnoy was on it before.

At the next tour (beginning Jan. Or Feb. 2012) there will be played more material of the new album. They're getting a cool show produced by an outside team. They've come with ideas Petrucci never would have come up with and that are really great and cool.

I think that was the most info out of it.

Cheers
 
Just read that on DTF. Knowing what the lyrics are about have been reassuring to me. When I read certain titles like Outcry, and Lost but Not Forgotten, I was imagining what the lyrics could be about, and my expectations of those songs lowered. Now they have gone back up. The same was with the Final Frontier, with songs like Starblind, Mother of Mercy, and When The Wild Wind Blows.
 
Just heard a Breaking All Illusions sample... It sounds a lot like learning to Live. But that keyboard part at the beginning...  :down:
 
I really don't like the idea of "This is the Life". Petrucci, telling other people to accept their lives, it'll make you happy. Of course he can say that, he turned out to the be the guitar god he always wanted to be.

I'm not disagreeing with the idea of the song. It's totally right. I just don't want to hear it from Petrucci.

This isn't the first time DT has gotten on my nerves with this stuff. 6 Degrees, about mental illness, but all done from books and research ... a bunch of sane guys writing about problems they've never had doesn't work for me. By way of contrast, I love the 12-Step Suite, because it's from MP's own experience.

Or take Someone Like Him from 8vm. "I've lived an extraordinary life, and now I'm jealous of the ordinary guy." Oh fucking boo hoo. Learn from Paul Stanley of Kiss... when asked if the makeup made life hard in the 70s, he said "who cares? My dream came true, I'm a rock star. I'm not gonna complain about problems that a million fans would kill to have."
 
I agree to an extent SMX, but can't you apply this to Maiden too? Writing about the experiences of soldiers in war when none of the members would actually know what it feels like?
(Having said that, I love their war songs lyrics, just as I like 6DIOT lyrics).
 
SinisterMinisterX said:
I really don't like the idea of "This is the Life". Petrucci, telling other people to accept their lives, it'll make you happy. Of course he can say that, he turned out to the be the guitar god he always wanted to be.

I'm not disagreeing with the idea of the song. It's totally right. I just don't want to hear it from Petrucci.

This isn't the first time DT has gotten on my nerves with this stuff. 6 Degrees, about mental illness, but all done from books and research ... a bunch of sane guys writing about problems they've never had doesn't work for me. By way of contrast, I love the 12-Step Suite, because it's from MP's own experience.

Or take Someone Like Him from 8vm. "I've lived an extraordinary life, and now I'm jealous of the ordinary guy." Oh fucking boo hoo. Learn from Paul Stanley of Kiss... when asked if the makeup made life hard in the 70s, he said "who cares? My dream came true, I'm a rock star. I'm not gonna complain about problems that a million fans would kill to have."
I thought This Is the Life was going to be about something else? Either way, I don't mind lyrics at all. If they're bad lyrics, OK I can get over it if the music is good, and if they're spectacular lyrics, then that just makes the song even better. That's why I never diss Count of Tuscany.
 
Jupz said:
I agree to an extent SMX, but can't you apply this to Maiden too? Writing about the experiences of soldiers in war when none of the members would actually know what it feels like?
(Having said that, I love their war songs lyrics, just as I like 6DIOT lyrics).

Or, to be even closer to what SMX was saying, what about Wildest Dreams, "when I'm feeling down and low, I just remember who I am", WTF's up with that? You're Steve f'kin Harris, good for you.

On an unrelated note, I was at the last DT show in Hungary, it was truly great, perhaps even better than any Maiden show I've been to. The highlights were Endless Sacrifice (when JR came to the front of the stage with his keytar, the three of them playing shoulder to shoulder like the Maiden guitarists during The Trooper), Through My Words + Fatal Tragedy, Metropolis, The Count of Tuscany and of course Mangini's drum solo which maybe was a bit too long, but ended spectacularly with him hitting the toms while crossing his hands each time. It was a logical move to have him do a solo to introduce him to the fans and the crowd loved it. Also, what I loved about the DT crowd was that there was no pushing or anything (and we were standing 5-10 rows away from the stage), not even for the faster songs, which is a feature of Maiden shows that I really hate.
 
Which one is better, Train of Thought or Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence? I'll be getting one of the two next week, I'm just not sure which one. I'm leaning toward Train of Thought.
 
I recommend 'Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence'. The songs on that album are of consistently high quality but 'Train of Thought' bores me a bit. The songs from that album are good live but I didn't find some of them particularly interesting till I saw DT perform them.
 
If you're looking for a straightforward metal album, Train of Thought is the way to go (straightforward in a DT sense, that is). As I Am, Endless Sacrifice, Stream of Consciousness and In The Name of God which are superb songs, plus the other three which are not bad.

As for 6DOIT, I still haven't managed to get into that album, especially into the title track because I find most of its movements so unbearably creepy. To be objective, 6DOIT is a bit more progressive than TOT and a bit less progressive than SFAM.

Also, if you haven't read it on Wikipedia or somewhere else yet, SFAM was the beginning of an album cycle which ended with Octavarium - the white noise at the end of SFAM is also at the beginning of 6DOIT, the end tone of 6DOIT is the beginning tone of TOT and so on.
 
Right I know about the album cycle thing. Train of Thought was the album I wanted to get in the first place. Back when I became a fan. Now I have a chance to get it. But Six Degrees is another one I have had trouble finding, and I like the title track quite a bit. I think either way I'll end up getting ToT.
 
My DT album rankings:

1. Images and Words (favourite ever)
2. SFAM
3. 6DOIT
4-7. Train of Thought, Awake, WDADU, BC&SL
8-9. FII, 8VM
10. SC

So I would recommend 6DOIT before ToT. Plus, you get more music :) The title track, Blind Faith and TGP are all in my DT top 10 (Well TGP drifts out sometimes).
 
We'll see. I guess it depends on my mood more than anything. I'm in a metal mood right now which is why ToT sounds good right about now, but if that changes in the next week, I'll probably get Six Degrees. Thanks for the suggestions! Also, SFAM will probably overtake Images and Words as my favorite DT album. My rankings if that happens:

1: Scenes
2: Images
3: Awake
5: Black Clouds
6: Octavarium
7: Systematic Chaos
These are the albums I have at the moment. Hopefully ADTOE makes the top 3. :)
 
My top 4:


1. Octavarium
2. Scenes from a Memory
3. Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence
4. When Dream and Day Unite

I'm not really sure where I'd put the rest. I've never properly listened to 'Images and Words', 'Awake' and 'Falling to Infinity' but they all jave good songs. At some point I'll need to listen to them on loop.
 
Metropolis part 1 is possibly my favorite DT song.  Easily in the top 5.

Images and Words is a great album-- give it a try; at the very least, Pull Me Under is their 'greatest hit'.
 
I know most of the songs individually. 'Surrounded' is one of my favourite DT songs, I know 'Pull Me Under' well and 'Metropolis Part I' is a masterpiece. It's just that I've not listened to the albums as albums they way I have with 'Octavarium' or 'Scenes From a Memory'.
 
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