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Brigantium

General of the Dark Army
Staff member
The Punch and Judy show that is the Government is manufacturing 'leaks'/dropping hints that it might be about to backtrack on it's June 21 'Freedom Day' farce. Current rumours suggest they're going to keep existing (legal?) restrictions for another two weeks, which sounds like nowhere near enough time in the face of only half of the adult population having had both doses of a vaccine, and the Delta formerly-known-as-Indian variant becoming the most dominant strain in the UK.

I may be a huge sceptic of one political party in particular, but I've never previously distrusted them to the extent of having no faith at all that they have an interest in public safety. They just do whatever is in keeping with their own prejudices and only temper that when it looks like they might lose a few points with the populist mob.
 

GhostofCain

Ancient Mariner
The Punch and Judy show that is the Government is manufacturing 'leaks'/dropping hints that it might be about to backtrack on it's June 21 'Freedom Day' farce. Current rumours suggest they're going to keep existing (legal?) restrictions for another two weeks, which sounds like nowhere near enough time in the face of only half of the adult population having had both doses of a vaccine, and the Delta formerly-known-as-Indian variant becoming the most dominant strain in the UK.

I may be a huge sceptic of one political party in particular, but I've never previously distrusted them to the extent of having no faith at all that they have an interest in public safety. They just do whatever is in keeping with their own prejudices and only temper that when it looks like they might lose a few points with the populist mob.

Hear, hear!

Do you want one of this?

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Brigantium

General of the Dark Army
Staff member
Here we go, the PM announcing a delay to 'Freedom Day' (his own invention) for four further weeks in England. Not a huge surprise but I'm still not sure what the overall strategy versus covid is, if they actually have one. The idea is that more people 40+ or clinically vulnerable will have a chance of their second dose, and most of the population 18-30 will have had the chance of a first dose by July 19.

However, that still leaves a few million adults with c.33% effective protection against developing covid with the Delta variant - which is now the dominant strain in the UK, while those fully vaccinated have either a 60% effective vaccine (most have the AZ vaccine) or an 87% effect vaccine. Not quite the efficacy there was against the older variants. The likely result, even in four weeks' time, is likely to be a big rise in cases, not the breakdown of transmission chains and dwindling of cases that you'd like to think will be the conclusion of the pandemic.

Hospitalisation and death rates are much lower in the vaccinated population but still not great. It's suggested that about 30% of deaths involving the Delta variant have been in fully vaccinated people. No comparable figures released on the UK variant. The last set of figures - even if only a small sample over a period when cases numbers were falling while Delta variant prevalence was gradually increasing - bizarrely show more deaths among fully vaccinated people than people with only one dose. I'm not sure if that's something to do with age of the people involved or the vaccination given. Oldest and most clinically vulnerable people, plus those in risk professions like healthcare, are more likely to have had both doses. Pfizer was given right at the start of the vaccination campaign, AZ was then given to the majority of people over 40, before Pfizer and Moderna were used for under 40s.

I'm fine with the idea of people attending big gatherings and gigs after a lateral flow test. It's not fantastically accurate but it's far better than nothing. That would certainly help businesses who had completely geared up to June 21 reopening based on the government's overhyping of the date. However, I really hope they don't ditch all restrictions in shops, public transport, workplaces etc immediately after July 19. In typical statement-making fashion, the PM says any lifting of restrictions will 'irreversible'. Which doesn't guarantee he's honest, but it might be a sign that he's going to be bloody minded about this.
 

GhostofCain

Ancient Mariner
In typical statement-making fashion, the PM says any lifting of restrictions will 'irreversible'. Which doesn't guarantee he's honest, but it might be a sign that he's going to be bloody minded about this.

Has Boris Johnson ever been honest about anything?
 

GhostofCain

Ancient Mariner
Is he a racist? Not heard that one before

He made some abhorrent comments in the 70s, supported Enoch Powell...

In fact, his comments inspired the Rock Against Racism movement.


He has addressed the issue recently (see below).


I am not sure he has apologised for his extremely racist comments (if he has done it, it has taken him nearly 4 decades...). What he has definitely done is tried to justify his behaviour as a result of his addictions.
 
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Brigantium

General of the Dark Army
Staff member
Another office closure today, someone who visited all parts of the building tested positive. They came to work with symptoms and a relative had tested positive. :mad:
 

GhostofCain

Ancient Mariner
Another office closure today, someone who visited all parts of the building tested positive. They came to work with symptoms and a relative had tested positive. :mad:

I think this is going to go on for a long time.

I have been working from home since March last year and it seems that is going to be the case for the foreseeable future.
 

LooseCannon

Enterprise-class aircraft carrier
Staff member
We're talking September here, but I strongly believe it will be only vaccinated people allowed to return to office. Of which I wholeheartedly approve!
 

Black Abyss Babe

Quantum weather butterfly
Our lot are talking "as soon as the last restriction is formally lifted" - so would have been next week but is now looking like next month (potentially).

However they became open to the possibility of more flexibility going forwards when they discovered that (very much to their surprise I gather) "it hasn't been a disaster" (a partner's exact words in my last appraisal). So we were all asked what we would like to do and I have asked, and been granted, to continue working from home three days a week indefinitely. This gives me all sorts of possibilities that weren't there before.
 

Forostar

Ancient Mariner
We're talking September here, but I strongly believe it will be only vaccinated people allowed to return to office. Of which I wholeheartedly approve!
This is most probably not happening in most European countries. I don't think companies or institutions can know, check or force this.

Edit: In the Netherlands, from 26 June people are not advised anymore to work at home.

It will be a weird change, working so long at home since March 2020. Perhaps I'll try to do hybrid working (office and home), and see how that goes.
 
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