Coronavirus

GhostofCain said:
By the way, there is no need to bring the amoral lunatic Tory fringe to the fore; they are already there (Priti Patel? Dominic Raab? You would be hard-pressed to find a moderate in the current cabinet of incompetent brown-nosers). ;)
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You have heard the 'rebel' backbenchers that want to drop all restrictions, haven't you? The ones who still cling to the herd immunity goal, think 60,000 lives is fair game to keep pub chains ticking over and property prices rising, and will likely be hankering to sell off the NHS to recoup the debt the pandemic has caused? Of course they like to claim they're motivated by civil liberties, which they're not.

Sadly enough the front benchers are now the most the sensible ones, seeing as this party keeps purging itself for the sake of backbench causes which suddenly become national causes.
 
Brigantium said:
You have heard the 'rebel' backbenchers that want to drop all restrictions, haven't you? The ones who still cling to the herd immunity goal, think 60,000 lives is fair game to keep pub chains ticking over and property prices rising, and will likely be hankering to sell off the NHS to recoup the debt the pandemic has caused? Of course they like to claim they're motivated by civil liberties, which they're not.

Sadly enough the front benchers are now the most the sensible ones, seeing as this party keeps purging itself for the sake of backbench causes which suddenly become national causes.
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I have and you make a valid point, but there are also frontbenchers sharing those views. Today’s frontbenchers are yesterday’s backbenchers, the ones that David Cameron should have ignored when he tried to modernise the Tory party. The ultranationalist right-wing populists who do not respect the rule of law. If those frontbenchers are moderate conservatives, then I am the Pope!
 
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Not moderate Conservatives, just the more sensible of the ones in Parliament. Of those who speak out, that is. There are some decent ones who just echo whatever the leadership say, but they'll never voice their own opinions.
 
Some very interesting research has identified five genes which it is believed play a significant role in more severe Covid cases. This could potentially pave the way for more much more effective treatments. They've identified drugs used to treat other conditions that have the potential to be used against Covid, if these genes are indeed significant.

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Gene Pitney is another one. He causes Covid to be more severe. Thankfully he can be treated with drugs for rheumatoid arthritis.
 
Perun said:
Complete lockdown starting on Wednesday. Everything but supermarkets will be closed, strict contact restrictions, softened only a little on 24th-26th December but expressedly not for New Year's Eve. Measures in place until 10th January, then under review.
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What has gone wrong in Germany? I have always seen the country’s response to the pandemic to be miles better than the UK government’s, but the number of deaths there seem to be out of control at the moment.
 
The period of relative relaxation during summer and autumn wasn't used to develop any concepts for the winter. For too long, people dwelled on that idea that we're handling it better than anyone else, which may have been true during the spring, and it's not gonna be all that bad. And then when the first rise of infections came in the late summer that was already considered the second wave. So everything gradually got out of control.
 
Perun said:
The period of relative relaxation during summer and autumn wasn't used to develop any concepts for the winter. For too long, people dwelled on that idea that we're handling it better than anyone else, which may have been true during the spring, and it's not gonna be all that bad. And then when the first rise of infections came in the late summer that was already considered the second wave. So everything gradually got out of control.
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What's the infection rate like there per capita? I'm curious how it compares to the restriction levels here. Ottawa is currently at 4.5/100,000 per day.
 
I saw cases had gone up sharply. Germany really did appear handle coronavirus better than many countries earlier this year. I have noticed this pattern in regions that didn't have an utter disaster during the first wave.
 
We were over 20,000 at some point. We might still be, weekends always have incomplete stats.
 
Perun said:
We were over 20,000 at some point. We might still be, weekends always have incomplete stats.
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Wait, is this per day in all of Germany, or just in Berlin? Because if it is in all of Germany, that translates to 1,300,000 cases per day.
 
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