Bruce's Singing

GhostofCain said:
You’ve got to love the problems it caused back in the day: Bruce being accused by fans of being a liar after boasting about the lack of overdubs, followed by an official statement by Steve to say that Bruce had not overdubbed anything and that it only was him cutting and pasting! :lol:
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The stubborn, the stubborner and the stubbornest:

The story of S. Harris and P. B. Dickinson.
 
Vaenyr said:
I agree, with the caveat that I don't think his Beast On The Road performances were good either. Again, his range was impressive and he definitely had the energy, so he was a great and effective showman back then already, but singing wise? He was all over the place. Every single song has multiple lines where he misses the proper pitches because he simply couldn't control his voice well enough.
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Also, just to make sure because I realize this sounds pretty negative:

I'm judging young Bruce compared to how he sounded in the early 2000s and how other legendary singers sound. Even for the years where I'm not a big fan of his voice he's still great and far above the average singer.
 
The biggest reason In his vocal change was probably simply touring less. Like he said in an interview just before the release of Brave New World in May 2000 that since leaving Maiden he'd only done 4-5 month tours with enough day offs instead of ten months / five nights a week. He then exampled that if football player has to do four matches a week his body starts falling apart. So that.
 
Blood On The World´s Hand said:
The biggest reason In his vocal change was probably simply touring less. Like he said in an interview just before the release of Brave New World in May 2000 that since leaving Maiden he'd only done 4-5 month tours with enough day offs instead of ten months / five nights a week. He then exampled that if football player has to do four matches a week his body starts falling apart. So that.
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I like how he Sings from 1992 to 2010 Maybe now is not like those years. But always a good performance. He could do that for maybe 10 years more. Moving its a bit different nowadays.
 
Diesel 11 said:
If we’re talking about the live album and not the video, then I would say it’s one of his better ‘80s performances. If we’re talking about the video, yeahhhhh it’s rough.
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Yup.... some of the songs on the video are subpar compared with the album version. But then again 82 to 85 Bruce was on godlike mode and that LAD album performance is nothing short of jaw dropping (so everything short of excellent during that period is noticeable). Unpopular opinion here - I know for a long time now - something I always found to be... well... quite peculiar (and unique too, taking into account the vast majority of fans I know share the praises of early Bruce's vocals).

But it's ok... Everyone is entitled to his own opinion no matter how strange it may sound.
 
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Ruflux said:
album versions also have Bruce extending the notes in the AH chorus for different lengths of time so one has the backing vocals cut short a little awkwardly to match his pace.
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Yup... I can easily SEE it in the album version. :p
 
GhostofCain said:
Eternally grateful to Martin Birch for the overdubs!
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Every decent sounding live album has overdubs, let us be honest. And if we're talking about 90's onwards, they have TONS of it. In the case of RIR it's blatant - since there's the broadcasted TV version (just check the clansman... how the tempo goes completely off the rails on the intro).
 
matic22 said:
The stubborn, the stubborner and the stubbornest:

The story of S. Harris and P. B. Dickinson.
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Yup... utter BS. Like I said: every decent Maiden live album has overdubs. And I wouldn't bet my money on the fact that subpar releases like "A Real live/dead One", "TBOS Live Chapter" or the abomination that is "Night Of The Dead" are utterly devoid of those, either
 
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Poto said:
Last year too. He was good in 2022 too, but had some very uninspired years before that.

His sound and playing on this tour has been a joy to behold.
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Mmmmmm although sounding decent during the first half of the tour, he was already sounding tired and strained as hell on the American leg (check Rock In Rio 2022)... which is completely understandable. Now... this last tour I can easily say it's the best I've listened to Bruce sing since 2014... and that's not even close IMO. And I had the very same feeling listening to his solo gigs. In my book it's a far cry from the 2000's and not even comparable to his first 3 tours with Maiden (understandably so... the burden of age is unforgiving). But even so, I'm really impressed he managed to turn back the clock almost a decade.
 
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CA Bryers said:
I like to pretend 2019 didn't happen as far as his singing goes...unfortunately it's immortalized in Nights of the Dead. :puke:

It's weird, considering his age, I kind of thought that downward slide was just the beginning. Amazingly, he pulled out of it with the last leg of Legacy, great performances on Leg 1 of Mandrake, and both legs of Future Past. I'd say he's better on this leg than last year's, but they've still got a month+ to go on it.
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Amen to that. I try to forget that thing was even released. It's painful to listen to (literally, since Bruce is sick as hell and the effort to sing - even so poorly - must have been huge).
 
karljant said:
You forgot "The supreme stubborn"... that Rod guy :P.
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Yes, if someone could explain to me why Maiden play in Germany when Wacken is on.
I missed the beginning of the ticket sale because my mom had an accident, so I don't have a ticket for Berlin 1, and Berlin 2 is when I'm in Wacken. What should I do now? Thank you Rod!
I have no money to travel abroad.
 
karljant said:
Mmmmmm although sounding decent during the first half of the tour, he was already sounding tired and strained as hell on the American leg (check Rock In Rio 2022)... which is completely understandable. Now... this last tour I can easily say it's the best I've listened to Bruce sing since 2014... and that's not even close IMO. And I had the very same feeling listening to his solo gigs. In my book it's a far cry from the 2000's and not even comparable to his first 3 tours with Maiden (understandably so... the burden of age is unforgiving). But even so, I'm really impressed he managed to turn back the clock almost a decade.
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I was talking about Dave. The post was moved to this thread, probably by mistake.
 
karljant said:
Every decent sounding live album has overdubs, let us be honest. And if we're talking about 90's onwards, they have TONS of it. In the case of RIR it's blatant - since there's the broadcasted TV version (just check the clansman... how the tempo goes completely off the rails on the intro).
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Live at Donington 1992 had a broadcast bootleg that proved some overdubbing too--for instance, Bruce mangled a verse in The Evil that Men Do originally.

Also there's The Evil that Men Do (again), this time from 1995, where you have The Eternal Flame bootleg and the B-Sides they used from it where it seems they copy/pasted the last line of the chorus that Blaze did attempt at the end of the song, but not in earlier choruses (or they overdubbed those choruses entirely). And there's a very sloppy splice in the last line of that B-Side version, making Blaze sing: "the evil that men do...lives/s on and oooooon." Whoops.
 
CA Bryers said:
Live at Donington 1992 had a broadcast bootleg that proved some overdubbing too--for instance, Bruce mangled a verse in The Evil that Men Do originally.

Also there's The Evil that Men Do (again), this time from 1995, where you have The Eternal Flame bootleg and the B-Sides they used from it where it seems they copy/pasted the last line of the chorus that Blaze did attempt at the end of the song, but not in earlier choruses (or they overdubbed those choruses entirely). And there's a very sloppy splice in the last line of that B-Side version, making Blaze sing: "the evil that men do...lives/s on and oooooon." Whoops.
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I have the donington bootleg. Balancing on the evelenendge or something like that he says. The bootleg its call from the dark or something like that. I have both bootlegs. Eternal flame too. Check fortunes of war with blaze murmuring the slow part
 
CA Bryers said:
Live at Donington 1992 had a broadcast bootleg that proved some overdubbing too--for instance, Bruce mangled a verse in The Evil that Men Do originally.

Also there's The Evil that Men Do (again), this time from 1995, where you have The Eternal Flame bootleg and the B-Sides they used from it where it seems they copy/pasted the last line of the chorus that Blaze did attempt at the end of the song, but not in earlier choruses (or they overdubbed those choruses entirely). And there's a very sloppy splice in the last line of that B-Side version, making Blaze sing: "the evil that men do...lives/s on and oooooon." Whoops.
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Here's a video of the original Donington 1992, the sound is the same of the live performance, not the one from the CD
In 35:02 you can see Bruce singing "you know, you know, the evil that men do" before it should be sung
 
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