Bruce's Singing

Vaenyr said:
His technique changed a ton throughout the years. People love early 80s Bruce, but he was pretty much a diamond in the rough. He had an insane range, but could barely control it. Both in the studio and especially live he often overshot the pitch he was actually going for. Given the grueling touring schedules it was only a matter of time until he hurt his voice. He noticeably changed his approach throughout the 90s and seemed to learn proper technique, which led to his golden years (imo).
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Bruce's live singing in the 80s is largely a myth. Based on bootlegs, the only tours he actually nailed were Beast on the Road and the first half of World Piece. The '83 concerts at the Hammersmith were the turning point. He had good/great moments in the next tours (Rio '85, Modena '88 IIRC) but he never reached those peaks again until his solo career in the '90s.

And I'm sorry, but nobody can say with a straight face he sings well on Live After Death.
 
Murder of Rue Morgue said:
Bruce's live singing in the 80s is largely a myth. Based on bootlegs, the only tours he actually nailed were Beast on the Road and the first half of World Piece. The '83 concerts at the Hammersmith were the turning point. He had good/great moments in the next tours (Rio '85, Modena '88 IIRC) but he never reached those peaks again until his solo career in the '90s.

And I'm sorry, but nobody can say with a straight face he sings well on Live After Death.
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I agree, with the caveat that I don't think his Beast On The Road performances were good either. Again, his range was impressive and he definitely had the energy, so he was a great and effective showman back then already, but singing wise? He was all over the place. Every single song has multiple lines where he misses the proper pitches because he simply couldn't control his voice well enough.
 
Confeos said:
I thought it had long been established that the video and album for LAD comes from two different nights.
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Yes, the album version received overdubbs and while obviously better than the video version it's pretty rough.
Diesel 11 said:
Source?
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Currently traveling on a train, so looking up stuff on the phone is a pain, but Bruce has confirmed in interviews that some of the vocals for Live After Death were rerecorded in the studio (most notably Aces High).

He also confirmed that Adrian rerecorded a few solos (a couple of songs? Don't remember the specifics) due to his guitar going horribly out of tune.

IIRC this might've been around the time of Rock In Rio, where Bruce was boasting that this time around everything was live (which is funny, because RIR has a bunch of edits and copy/paste segments lol)

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maidenpriest

Thread 'Live After Death album what was played where ?'

Hello, I am going nuts trying to work out on what date the 'Live After Death' album was recorded out of the 4 nights at Long Beach, does anyone have any info whether it was the 14th, 15th 16th or 17th of March 1985 ?? :(

This thread has discussed this topic and features a quote by Bruce. Adrian's backing vocals were apparently overdubbed as well.
 
Vaenyr said:
Yes, the album version received overdubbs and while obviously better than the video version it's pretty rough.

Currently traveling on a train, so looking up stuff on the phone is a pain, but Bruce has confirmed in interviews that some of the vocals for Live After Death were rerecorded in the studio (most notably Aces High).

He also confirmed that Adrian rerecorded a few solos (a couple of songs? Don't remember the specifics) due to his guitar going horribly out of tune.

IIRC this might've been around the time of Rock In Rio, where Bruce was boasting that this time around everything was live (which is funny, because RIR has a bunch of edits and copy/paste segments lol)

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maidenpriest

Thread 'Live After Death album what was played where ?'

Hello, I am going nuts trying to work out on what date the 'Live After Death' album was recorded out of the 4 nights at Long Beach, does anyone have any info whether it was the 14th, 15th 16th or 17th of March 1985 ?? :(

This thread has discussed this topic and features a quote by Bruce. Adrian's backing vocals were apparently overdubbed as well.
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re backing vocals

just listen to Aces High
 
PhantomOfTheOpera said:
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If I ever have a possibility to meet him (in private situation) and talk about different stuff, I would surely ask about his voice and how he has taken care of it.

I almost wish there could be some deeper interview where he would talk about these things.
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But why would he tell you anything about it that isn't already known? (Nothing personal to do with you, but any random fan).
I always find it highly suspicious when random fans claim that a band member has revealed something to them that wasn't already known.
If Bruce doesn't want to reveal details about this topic, he'll give diplomatic answers to an interviewer, too.

That's exactly what he did at the spoken word show I was at. One of the questions was actually about how he trains his singing voice.
His answer was relatively meaningless: That you should use your singing voice a lot, but then again not too much... :yes:
 
Poto said:
The copy/pasting is extremely annoying but surely all of it is live.
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True, I should've worded this with more care. I didn't want to imply it wasn't live or that they overdubbed. It was more that I was amused that the first big live release had overdubs, while the (then) new release had a bunch of unnecessary (imo of course) copy/pasting.

They had an amazing audience that sang basically every lyric and every melody, even for Blaze-era songs, but it felt as if Steve was afraid having the audience sing a bunch of stuff without Bruce. Still an amazing album though.
 
Melony said:
But why would he tell you anything about it that isn't already known? (Nothing personal to do with you, but any random fan).
I always find it highly suspicious when random fans claim that a band member has revealed something to them that wasn't already known.
If Bruce doesn't want to reveal details about this topic, he'll give diplomatic answers to an interviewer, too.

That's exactly what he did at the spoken word show I was at. One of the questions was actually about how he trains his singing voice.
His answer was relatively meaningless: That you should use your singing voice a lot, but then again not too much... :yes:
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I totally know what you mean, but still personally as I've been with Maiden for so long time, I would be curious to know some thing Im interested about.
 
srfc said:
re backing vocals

just listen to Aces High
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Those are particularly funny when it comes to the video version since while they didn't use Bruce's vocal overdubs, the guitar overdubs (presumably, I didn't spot the Goldtop being out of tune anyway) and Adrian's backing vocals were used, resulting in a few subtle moments where Adrian is late to the mic or slightly away from it, but somehow his backing vocals don't change at all. The video and album versions also have Bruce extending the notes in the AH chorus for different lengths of time so one has the backing vocals cut short a little awkwardly to match his pace.
 
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