18th Studio Album discussion

Ledges Bitten In Dust said:
Looks like pattern is real:
DOD-AMOLAD - 3 years
AMOLAD-TFF - 4 years
TFF-TBOS - 5 years
TBOS-SJ - 6 years
SJ-18th - possible 7 years, so 2028

With that pace, 18th could be their last, cause with their cycle of album tour-hits tour, next album won't come before 2033, at the time when they're deep in their 70s, not really expecting more than 18 from them unfortunately.
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Well said. When they released Senjutsu in 2021, I thought they could release at least 2 more albums until 2030, but now we are discussing if we can get one more, if Steve wants to record, if Dave wants to retire, etc. Assuming they release #18 in 2028, with that pace, album 19 should come in 2036, which is a distant dream...
 
Eli said:
Well said. When they released Senjutsu in 2021, I thought they could release at least 2 more albums until 2030, but now we are discussing if we can get one more, if Steve wants to record, if Dave wants to retire, etc. Assuming they release #18 in 2028, with that pace, album 19 should come in 2036, which is a distant dream...
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I still think that 2027 is the year for a recording. Bruce can tour and record with maiden and the others usually are free
 
I just hope that in 2028 or whatever year it will be, Maiden brings us something really special. Possibly the longest album, with longest song, different themes, pushing the boundaries and so on. Cause, for example from TFF to TBOS, in my opinion there is a big step up in overall feel. Those are my 2 least favorite reunion albums, but feeling between them is way different. TBOS brought somehow "wow" effect that BNW brought. SJ just came more consistent than TBOS, but didn't feel like Maiden evolved over the 6 years (4 in terms of recording). I hope that new album will feel that fresh and new to make the wait worth.
 
Ledges Bitten In Dust said:
I just hope that in 2028 or whatever year it will be, Maiden brings us something really special. Possibly the longest album, with longest song, different themes, pushing the boundaries and so on. Cause, for example from TFF to TBOS, in my opinion there is a big step up in overall feel. Those are my 2 least favorite reunion albums, but feeling between them is way different. TBOS brought somehow "wow" effect that BNW brought. SJ just came more consistent than TBOS, but didn't feel like Maiden evolved over the 6 years (4 in terms of recording). I hope that new album will feel that fresh and new to make the wait worth.
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I like SJ i feel it is close to BNw and AMOLAD stronger than book of souls for sure
 
Ledges Bitten In Dust said:
Looks like pattern is real:
DOD-AMOLAD - 3 years
AMOLAD-TFF - 4 years
TFF-TBOS - 5 years
TBOS-SJ - 6 years
SJ-18th - possible 7 years, so 2028
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I don't really subscribe to this theory. TBOS-SJ only became 6 years because of COVID. I'm fairly sure that I read something here on the forums too about there having supposed to be a full-fledged Senjutsu album support tour and a full-fledged Somewhere in Time retrospect tour before it got combined to what was The Future Past tour.
 
Abas said:
I don't really subscribe to this theory. TBOS-SJ only became 6 years because of COVID. I'm fairly sure that I read something here on the forums too about there having supposed to be a full-fledged Senjutsu album support tour and a full-fledged Somewhere in Time retrospect tour before it got combined to what was The Future Past tour.
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Senjutsu tour became TFP tour because of Covid. I said this before... I think the focus on SIT grew simply from Bruce and Nicko wanting to do Stranger and Alexander live badly. Also, they wanted to represent Senjutsu ASAP after release, so they did the first 3 tracks during LOTB and afterwards did the hybrid TFP.

I believe the original plan was to do Senjutsu tour with 6 or 7 new songs and include Stranger and Alexander in the setlist.
 
My least favorite reunion era album is TFF. I would place Senjutsu after BNW, DOD and AMOLAD. I liked Senjutsu more than BOS because i felt it's a lot more varied and overall, has a stronger set of songs. The title track of BOS is amazing though and only Parchment comes close to the epic feel of that song in my opinion.

What i don't want to see in the new album is the same rehashed acoustic intro by Janick. Dream of Mirrors, Legacy, Talisman and Time Machine is more than enough.
 
Abas said:
I don't really subscribe to this theory. TBOS-SJ only became 6 years because of COVID. I'm fairly sure that I read something here on the forums too about there having supposed to be a full-fledged Senjutsu album support tour and a full-fledged Somewhere in Time retrospect tour before it got combined to what was The Future Past tour.
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I dont think there was a somewhere in time tour in minds but was a good way to play the rest of SJ albim and rare songs and im sure the next tour if therr is another tour will be the oposite a greatest hits tour.
 
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Ironalice said:
Bruce has been saying on the recent US tour they will be back in 2027 to do it all again, it looks like it will be the most extensive solo tour to date doing both Europe and NA
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Bigger solo tour for Bruce, possible, but then hitting the same places for the 2nd leg? Maiden's 2028 tour might not be just Europe, so Bruce's 2nd leg to be shorter, like this year. Maybe he wants to play bigger venues.

So if he releases his album in March 2027 (like TMP), tour starting in April - until say August - then recording in the fall for Maiden is possible. Again, if Steve have no plans with BL for then. 2027 is probably their best chance to record, for gathering ideas too. 2028 is for a tour.
Eli said:
Well said. When they released Senjutsu in 2021, I thought they could release at least 2 more albums until 2030, but now we are discussing if we can get one more, if Steve wants to record, if Dave wants to retire, etc. Assuming they release #18 in 2028, with that pace, album 19 should come in 2036, which is a distant dream...
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I really thought the next album after SJ would be sooner... even though their normal approach is 5 years since AMOLAD.
 
Jadukor said:
What i don't want to see in the new album is the same rehashed acoustic intro by Janick. Dream of Mirrors, Legacy, Talisman and Time Machine is more than enough.
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^This. Why not add an acoustic part in the middle of a song this time. Steve could do it for an epic. Adrian could also use an acoustic part. Bruce? Not sure, if the song is fully written by him.
 
Ledges Bitten In Dust said:
I just hope that in 2028 or whatever year it will be, Maiden brings us something really special. Possibly the longest album, with longest song, different themes, pushing the boundaries and so on. Cause, for example from TFF to TBOS, in my opinion there is a big step up in overall feel. Those are my 2 least favorite reunion albums, but feeling between them is way different. TBOS brought somehow "wow" effect that BNW brought. SJ just came more consistent than TBOS, but didn't feel like Maiden evolved over the 6 years (4 in terms of recording). I hope that new album will feel that fresh and new to make the wait worth.
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I think it will be the same approach as the last 2 albums, length-wise too. With probably/I hope more faster and shorter songs with Simon, but overall shorter stuff, I don't think so. I feel the band really improved after TFF with the next albums. Structures, parts, ideas, also more varied. SJ felt like an impactful album, which is not easy. Like BNW. A new Maiden album is always special, always special stuff and worth the wait - ofc we don't know what to expect with Simon now. It will feel fresh, I believe in this. Bruce could offer an interesting idea from his solo stuff. And ofc he, Steve and Adrian can bring interesting ideas.

The band to evolve is an interesting word? How now? The songs will be a mix of styles, lengths and stuff. More songs with an early/classic vibe inspired by the RFYL tour? I feel more shorter, faster (plus the longer stuff ofc), more than 10 songs and harmonies back would count as something fresh.
 
Brigantium said:
I honestly think it's more that Steve isn't bursting with crestivity when it comes to Maiden material like he was when he was younger. He has British Lion to scratch his musical itch (and their output isn't all that high either). Bruce has his little project and Adrian has one too.

They probably do have enough left in them to produce a solid Maiden album, but if they're not brimming with enough ideas, no point in flying everyone from around the world to try and force out a new album just because.

I suspect that's been the case with the last two albums too. A bit of a creative drought, followed by a short intense period of creativity where they suddenly ended up with a LOT of material to cram into one album. Steve's 'epic to end all epics' bids like Red and the Black, and Hell On Earth, while Bruce was clearly massively into Empire of the Clouds (obsessively so, maybe!) and maybe Darkest Hour, too, another of his pet obsessions. Writing on the Wall was quite a new look for Maiden too that smacks of sudden inspiration.
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The Rock Candy interview - which for me is the best recent insight into Steve's thinking by far- trots out similar lines regarding having 'too many new ideas for one lifetime'.

He event specifies how he has backed up his new ideas, semi-ideas, etc.

The question is whether he wants to push himself to develop them into finished ideas with Maiden. There, I agree with you, he doesn't seem to focused on that.

Key point: read the Rock Candy interview.
 
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