18th Studio Album discussion

I am repeating myself, but I am in the view that they should retire after this tour. I am not being a negative Norman, but I have my reasons.
  • The band clearly have no desire to return to the studio.
  • I believe that the reunion era songwriting tropes have been exhausted.
  • Hell on Earth is probably the best closer of the reunion era (alongside Thin Line…). It’s the best ending to a recording career they could have.
  • Although this tour has flaws, it’s a fantastic celebration of their ‘classic era’.
  • Without serious accommodations, Bruce’s voice will continue to get more grating live. In his lower register he sounds great, but his upper register is getting more strained by the day.

Maiden got me into music. I teach music for a living. You could say that they have had a massive I part of my life. But I feel that they should step down and go out on a high rather than milking it out.

Bring on the hate mail!

No hate of course, but I really don't understand how you can know this, without sitting in their heads or having access to the devices where they might have recorded new song ideas.

Would you want Bruce to stop his solo touring too?
 
I understand the love for the song, but to me, it sounds way too generic, like most Adrian songs.

But that in turn means there is room for improvement. (Contrary to what some people write, that there can be no further improvement after Senjutsu).
Maybe next time he'll come up with something really adventurous. No one can know. So much changes, even unexpectedly.
 
No hate of course, but I really don't understand how you can know this, without sitting in their heads or having access to the devices where they might have recorded new song ideas.
Nobody knows anything man miss, but this forum is all about pretending we are in their heads to give an opinion.
 
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Sure (I am a lady by the way). I just find some assumptions plausible because of hints and things band members said, and sometimes I don't understand how people arrived at them.
For example that "The band clearly have no desire to return to the studio.", with Bruce's interest in a new Maiden album and with Steve's remarks that could be both just be a diversionary tactic as well as the truth.
 
Sure (I am a lady by the way). I just find some assumptions plausible because of hints and things band members said, and sometimes I don't understand how people arrived at them.
For example that "The band clearly have no desire to return to the studio.", with Bruce's interest in a new Maiden album and with Steve's remarks that could be both just be a diversionary tactic as well as the truth.
They haven’t been in the studio as a band for nearly 7 years. I think that is pretty good evidence to suggest that they don’t have a particular desire to be in the studio together.
 
They haven’t been in the studio as a band for nearly 7 years. I think that is pretty good evidence to suggest that they don’t have a particular desire to be in the studio together.
Yeah and even those sessions had their fair share of grumbling (from Nicko at least) since not everyone was as enthusiastic about heading back in the studio in the middle of winter in Paris. I would honestly not be surprised if it turned out that it's really only Bruce who has any real interest in a new Maiden album left, especially after Steve's comments.

I also have a hunch the reason Senjutsu had no Davey co-write on it wasn't because his stuff wasn't good enough, but rather he didn't actually write anything since it seems he's been content only playing the guitar while on tour for quite some time now.
 
Steve Harris is saying '" i dont have time " for a new Maiden record ...okayy... I lived enough to see this ....And for what exactly you have time Mr Harris ??? F***ing British Lion ???? Or another cabaret tour playing Again the same old songs ?? I really dont like steve harris anymore...he s a changed man from 2012 and getting worse day by day
Alright bloody hell calm down, he's a great man.
 
Yeah and even those sessions had their fair share of grumbling (from Nicko at least) since not everyone was as enthusiastic about heading back in the studio in the middle of winter in Paris.
Nicko was literally just complaining that it was cold.

" I was a bit [whiney] and moany for a few days, because I don’t like the cold. That’s why I live in Florida, mate"
 
Nicko was literally just complaining that it was cold.

" I was a bit [whiney] and moany for a few days, because I don’t like the cold. That’s why I live in Florida, mate"
I have to disagree with Nicko. I would take a cold Parisian winter over Florida’s humidity any day of the week (and yes, I have been to both!)
 
There couldn’t have been a better song to close an album/discography than Hell on Earth. If Steve can’t top that, let Senjutsu be their last.
Yes, but is it possible to top a song like Hell On Earth?
I am optimist and think that they will record new album in 2027. From there it can go two ways. Either release new album in spring 2028 and tour with it in summer and autumn and 2029.
Or what I think is more likely - tour 2028 summer with songs from BNW to Senjutsu (RFYL part ll) and one song from new album (+couple of classics) with release of new album in fall 2028. And then tour new album 2029-2930. That's usually what they have done and would have done with Senjutsu if Covid hadn't change their plans - one new song for LotB third leg with autumn release. At least that is what I'm hoping for. Would really love to see Brave New World and Dance of Death live one day.
The album could be released in the fall of 2027 or early 2028 before a summer tour. It's an option for the future, but if they wanted to do a Part 2 of the current tour, they would have done it in 2027.
The best option is - a hybrid tour again for 2 years with: new album/Reunion era/usual hits. Then 2030 a new tour. I doubt Blaze songs.
I’d love that. Let’s see whether that’s what a group of guys in their early 70s by then can pull it off… really wish they weren’t stringing out the album part so much.
Yeah... but 2027 for a new album is a normal course for them, considering their habits since 2006.
I could also imagine that there is a connection between the announcement of the tour break in 2027 and Steve's comments—so that not too many fans realize that 2027 is supposed to be reserved for the album.
Hmm, I doubt it. We expect them to write a new album during such a break.
It's just that ending everything with RFYL is going out with a bang! There's obviously a reason for releasing both art book and documentary in time for the NA tour and not earlier. They need to be on everyone's lips if they are going to sell out stadiums. And I think they will succeed. And after that, with a big break inbetween, are they going to tour with BNW -> Senjutsu? Tour with a new album? It's going to be a struggle if you're not doing some special thing with their most loyal fanbase. I would love more music but to be honest, ending it with RFYL is perfect in every way.
I get what you're trying to say, RFYL is like their biggest (not ultimate) Hits tour, but Maiden's Reunion era is too important. They don't need another special tour to sell out big shows after 2027 (and this tour is more special because of the new stage set, unlike LOTB), new material with old classics is normal, as always. And there will be an appetite. The last 3 tours are special.
The funny thing about this is that Maiden has already demonstrated how to do this. There’s no reason why they can’t use a Legacy of the Beast type of setlist to cover the entire career, include a few new songs, and then in the next leg cycle them out for another set of new songs (instead of going the Future Past route and doing a new tour entirely). This is the only realistic way for them to keep touring and release new music imo.
This is possible - and because if they continue to use screens. But let's see what they'll do, Maiden like their tours/stages/sets to be unique.
I understand the love for the song, but to me, it sounds way too generic, like most Adrian songs.
It seems shorter rockers are easy to be called generic. Writing is one of their interesting ones, which is always good.
They haven’t been in the studio as a band for nearly 7 years. I think that is pretty good evidence to suggest that they don’t have a particular desire to be in the studio together.
Which is sad for a band like Maiden who always say they want to move forward with new music. Bruce probably has the most desire. Then Adrian or Steve.
I also have a hunch the reason Senjutsu had no Davey co-write on it wasn't because his stuff wasn't good enough, but rather he didn't actually write anything since it seems he's been content only playing the guitar while on tour for quite some time now.
Or Steve's didn't work on his ideas because he wrote 4 long songs on his own for the first time since 1998. It's also possible that Dave's ideas weren't that strong or Steve didn't have the needed time to combine 2 or 3 ideas into one. They have a writing and recording window, which wouldn't be the case if they do it in 2027 (even with Nicko).
 
Hmm, I doubt it. We expect them to write a new album during such a break.

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Yes, us maybe, but on other social media, where more casual fans comment, a lot of them believe they will retire.

Even the" Dave is unhappy, he wants Maiden to come to an end" is still discussed. I mention it in the other thread.

I personally lean more and more toward thinking Steve's remarks are a deflection tactic.
 
Ok, but substract from that time pandemic & tours.
I think this is a fair point. Take those 2yrs out of it and assume they are gonna record next year then they are followin the basic pattern over the last 20yrs.

Re Davey, I really want a career defining banger from him, I love his input. When it's good. Breeg, Thin Line, BNW, delicious stuff. But when it's not to my liking its usually the worst song on the album. I'm lookin at you Nomad, Age of Innocence, Man of Sorrows.

Re some point some guy made about stopping after LOTB 2019, pffffft, good lord, man, such poppycock. It was a career highlight fo sho but I've very much enjoyed the subsequent tours. Hell on Earth, Alexander, Caught Somewhere in Time, Rime, Killers, 7th Son, tip top capers from East Londons finest. We've had lots of Maiden and honestly, I'd trade it all for a little more.

Although that explosive plunger on Run to the Hills on the Legacy tour was frankly embarrassing. I could do without that kinda shit ever again.
 
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