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Flaming Blimp Crash said:
Thought the timing was odd in putting out a new video with the tour wrapping up in two weeks.
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I thought the same.

Kind of disappointing that they will end the tour without visiting South America and Asia. No 2nd leg in Europe is also surprising. They were originally hyping this tour up as their biggest yet.
 
THESEVENTHMARINER said:
Wouldn't surprise me if Tobias has burnt himself out on Ghost, and decided to cut the tour short. He's been pretty non stop Ghost for 15 odd years, barring the pandemic.
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I think he's hinted he's a bit burnt out in interviews leading up to this current leg of the tour. He's indicated that Ghost is going to go sit on the shelf for a little bit once the tour's wrapped. Can't say I blame him.
 
Flaming Blimp Crash said:
I think he's hinted he's a bit burnt out in interviews leading up to this current leg of the tour. He's indicated that Ghost is going to go sit on the shelf for a little bit once the tour's wrapped. Can't say I blame him.
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They've been around long enough that I think they will take about a year off, he can do his solo album, and then Ghost can do a hits tour of sorts before writing a new album. But I agree, he is likely burnt out and needs the time. Or maybe even come back with a residency instead of a tour.
 
The Dissident said:
They've been around long enough that I think they will take about a year off, he can do his solo album, and then Ghost can do a hits tour of sorts before writing a new album. But I agree, he is likely burnt out and needs the time. Or maybe even come back with a residency instead of a tour.
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From the tone of the interviews, I wouldn't be surprised if it's anywhere from 3-5 years before Ghost comes back. In one interview he said that momentum is important, and if he loses it and it's never the same, he's fine with that.

When they do come back, I'd expect a mostly fresh pack of Ghouls behind him. I imagine he's released everyone from whatever contracts they might have so they can pursue other work. Some will likely find permanent gigs.

Overall, I'm not terribly surprised by the hiatus. Tobias has bounced around musical genres a lot prior to Ghost hitting, and for someone like that to be stuck doing one thing that a huge amount of people expect and demand that he does has got to be confining. But, from the sound of it, it's mostly missing family, especially missing the bulk of his kids growing up due to touring with Ghost.
 
I think some elements of the fan base could be a reason for a potential hiatus. I get the feeling that some of them are insufferable and have develop some sort of para-social relationship with the band. Jutty Tylor was hounded out of the band by fans on Twitter. There were allegations that were never proven.

Although the lore has been important for bringing some fans in, I reckon he wants a break from all of that.
 
Flaming Blimp Crash said:
Apparently during the last show of the tour last night he introduced the ghouls by their real name. Oh yeah, the band's definitely going away for awhile.
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I was at that show and was surprised by that move, certainly does look like his way of thanking everyone knowing when Ghost do eventually return it could be a very different band backing.

I must say the show was flawless, anyone who claims Ghost rely on their gimmick and stage show to stay relevant is just plain wrong lol, while the visuals are impressive at no point did I think it over powered the music, plenty of times the band got extended instrumentals and traded solos etc, very tight band and overall sounded better than the studio versions.

The no phone policy creates a great atmosphere, seeing everyone fully engaged even singing along to the deeper cuts was fantastic.
 
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Brigantium said:
They've been going at full pelt for a few years now. The Web episodes, albums, a film, tours. It's been an intensive time
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Yeah, you got to respect the fact he's come out and said straight that he wants to hang this up for a while and spend time at home.

Was quite surreal seeing Tobias (Papa) just standing there soaking it all in while the crowd were losing it, then thanking everyone for making his dreams come true before walking off.

I got the feeling there is no way you can give that up, they will be back before we know it.
 
I was sorry to hear there won't be a second European leg of this tour, as I had a great time at the O2 show last year. It was definitely intended to be a full 2+ year touring cycle at the outset by the looks of things but it seems as if TF needs a long break. It has also been suggested that the scale of the production as well as TF's insistence on the no phones policy (which it must be said enhances the concert experience greatly in my opinion) ruling out festival slots has meant that touring in certain territories is not profitable. Allegedly even the recent American leg was not financially successful.

Hoping that we will see Ghost back in a year or two rather than the project being put to sleep for a longer span of time.
 
UpTheIrons said:
I was sorry to hear there won't be a second European leg of this tour, as I had a great time at the O2 show last year. It was definitely intended to be a full 2+ year touring cycle at the outset by the looks of things but it seems as if TF needs a long break. It has also been suggested that the scale of the production as well as TF's insistence on the no phones policy (which it must be said enhances the concert experience greatly in my opinion) ruling out festival slots has meant that touring in certain territories is not profitable. Allegedly even the recent American leg was not financially successful.

Hoping that we will see Ghost back in a year or two rather than the project being put to sleep for a longer span of time.
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The stage show was definitely ambitious, in an economy where most bands are looking to reduce touring costs, Tobias goes all out designing a full scale custom stage and it hurt them in the end, was very expensive to transport, and as a result limited what countries they could ultimately bring it to.
Whenever they do return I think it's likely to be a scaled back production, with a better label that has more financial backing.
 
MrK said:
And ticket prices!
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I'm really curious as to what the fan base will look like once Ghost does return. If it is a 3-5 year hiatus like I think it might be, will a significant chunk of the fan base have moved on? I guess it depends on what Tobias does in the interim as far as keeping interest up during the downtime. Merch will undoubtedly continue, maybe another live album made from the Skeletour or archival things. I remember it being said Phantomime was originally twice as long, with the other half of the covers being left out, so I could see that other half surfacing in some shape or form.

If Tobias is really as burnt out as he claims (which I don't doubt), probably a good idea to hire out a brand manager or whatever to keep the pipeline flowing so the fans are there when he's good to go again. Or if it doesn't really matter to him like he said in that recent interview, let the cards fall where they may.

They way I imagine it playing out would be something akin to Maiden coming back with Blaze. The band were very tentative especially in the States, with Steve even wondering aloud in interviews if they still even had a fan base there (after only three years!), and booking clubs instead of larger venues. I don't think Ghost would drop back to clubs to test the waters, but a scaled-back production and smaller venues for the first leg of the tour I could see being likely unless the buzz of their return announcement is super strong.
 
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