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Vimy Ridge was like the baptism of fire for the Canadian nation. In the grand scheme of things, it didn't really matter because it was a small ridge in a large battlefield, but it was taken by a Canadian army under entirely Canadian control at a time when Canada wasn't even an independent nation.
A significant portion of the pride in the Vimy Ridge battle is due to the Canadian Corps being able to take a hill that the French and British had both failed to accomplish. Tactically, it was a small part of another pointless Western Front battle, but strategically, it influenced the way battles would be fought in 1918. The Canadian Corps was the first to successfully deploy a creeping barrage to obscure infantry advance and clear the battlefield of barbed wire obstacles; the Canadian Corps was the first to provide a complete battle plan to all officers and NCOs, to ensure that units retained command responsibility should a senior officer be killed. Infantry used stormtrooper-style tactics, fighting small individual battles for control rather than massive waves of infantry to try to overwhelm the German foe. Most Canadians don't know that stuff, but it's true, and it led to the Canadian Corps gaining a reputation for efficiency and success that has endured to this day.

Time and time again the Canadians were the point of the Commonwealth spear; it was the Canadian Corps called on to accomplish the final push at Passchendaele, and they did it. It took them one week to do what the British and Australians couldn't. They lost one in five men, but in a week they took the town. Another pointless victory in a pointless battle in a pointless campaign in a pointless war. They were the head of the British columns during the Hundred Days, throwing the Germans back as external pressures finally forced surrender.

Canadians saw themselves as British subjects before the Battle of Vimy Ridge. After it, there was a belief among those young men, those hundred thousand or so who stormed previously impossible heights, that just maybe they were something a little more than British colonists. That maybe we could rule our own destiny, independent of (but very respectful of) the British Empire. As those young men grew into the prime of life, they controlled the destiny of our nascent nation; ten years later, we'd become masters of our own fates in almost everything. Fifty four years after that, we'd patriate our Constitution.
 
I wish I knew what the curriculum was in other countries. A very good Belgian friend of mine didn't know squat about WWI. It was around the Dance of Death release and I asked her thoughts on Pachendale and her reply was, "The fuck is that?" When I told her what the song was about and my limited knowledge of the historical event she said, "I don't think so, it's just a dumb metal song." She didn't believe me until I googled it and showed her. She was very embarrassed and the only thing she said was, "Wow, it's sad I don't know my own history."

It's possible that she just didn't pay attention in school. It's also possible that as with most other European countries, the battle is better known as the Battle of Ypres or the Battle of Flanders there. Germans wouldn't have use for the name Passchendaele, but the name Ypres is quite well known.
 
My guess is she didn't pay attention, because when I googled it, it came up as the Battle of Ypres and she still had no clue.
 
Dick Cole, last of the Doolittle Raiders, dies at 103 03:30
(CNN)Richard "Dick" Cole didn't just have a front-row seat to history. On an April day in 1942 -- just four months after Pearl Harbor -- he sat next to Jimmy Doolittle as 16 B-25 Mitchell bombers lumbered down the deck of an aircraft carrier to begin a mission that ended in a huge morale boost for the United States.

Eighty gallant men volunteered for that successful mission -- which turned out to be a one-way attack -- vengeance for Japan's strike on Hawaii that crippled the US Navy fleet and left 2,403 dead.
Cole, the last surviving Doolittle Raider, died Tuesday in San Antonio, the US Air Force announced. He was 103.
"Lt. Col. Dick Cole reunited with the Doolittle Raiders in the clear blue skies today," said Secretary of the Air Force Heather Wilson.


His son, Rich, and daughter, Cindy Chal, were at his side, said Tom Casey, president of the Doolittle Tokyo Raiders Association. Their father will be buried at Arlington National Cemetery, Casey said.
 
I thought some of you may find this an interesting YouTube channel: Montemayor
What is it? Detailed battle accounts. The visuals help to follow this from another perspective. Love how the chronological course of events is done.

Description by the maker:
As a military history buff I decided to do something productive with the extensive knowledge I have on battles. I will focus on not-so-well known battles as well as famous ones, from the gunpowder age to today (modern warfare).

From an enthusiastic YouTube commentator:
[..] Nobody has ever explained the attack on Pearl Harbor in a video like this. Clear. Accurately. Visually. You show when the torpedoes hit, and where. You show who got shot down and you even explain why. You show what direction that planes came in from and why it mattered. You show how the attack succeeded and how it failed and even more you explained the goals and intentions of this attack that answers the many "what ifs" that plague this event. [..]

WWII battles done (from latest to earliest):

- The Battle of Midway 1942: Told from the Japanese Perspective (1/2)
"This is part one of a planned two-part video covering Operation MI. As you can see I spent a considerable amount of time covering Nagumo’s Dilemma. To me it's one of most striking examples of how tough it can be for a commander to make a decision based on the information at hand. I found that to be the most interesting aspect of the battle."
With inclusion of the fog of war! That means that the audience will only know the positions of the Americans, the moment the Japenese commander knew of it.
- The Battle of the Coral Sea 1942: The First Aircraft
- Attack on Pearl Harbor 1941
- Battle of Savo Island 1942: America's Worst Naval Defeat
 
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It might have been posted here, I might have missed it (I did try and check back a few pages) but Peter Jackson recently did They Shall Not Grow Old. A documentary/story about WWI. Hopefully it will help making more ppl aware of WWI.

I watched this on a plane last week. It was quite good. I thought the colorization looked good, but I was watching it on an airplane TV ... so not the best quality.

But the content was just superb. He used audio recordings from British WWI vets as narration. It was not about anything strategic, but the life of British WWI soldiers from joining the Army, to training, to going to Belgium/France, to combat, rest time, and to demobilization after the war.
 
This was shared on https://www.facebook.com/worldwarincolor/photos/a.393169424146189/2060678617395253/ on the WW2 Colourised Photos page.

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14 May 1940
'Operation Fall Gelb' - Rotterdam, Holland
Dutch soldiers overlook the "Nieuwe Maas" in search for attacking German troops half an hour prior to the dramatic bombardment that laid the City of Rotterdam in ruins.

(Colour by Dick Trom - https://www.facebook.com/ColourfulImpressionsOfTheBlackAndWhiteEra/ )

Dick Trom: "In the background the "Koningshavenbrug" (1928) is clearly visible. The iconic railway bridge, better known as "de Hef" (the Hoist) was badly damaged but survived the war and was in use until 1993. At the time It was the first of its kind in Western Europe and could hoist the entire railwayplatform vertically. It's now a listed monument and one of Rotterdams most iconic and famous landmarks."

Same spot nowadays:
https://goo.gl/maps/ypGTskiUMTawB26A8
 
Tonight is the 75th anniversary of the night of nights; tomorrow is the 75th anniversary of the Longest Day. Starting at 00:16 AM Zulu time (GMT), British paratroopers began the invasion of Europe. By this time tomorrow, it will be 75 years since the vast majority of the first wave of Allied forces took the beaches.

Operation Overlord was the largest military operation in history; three major combatants and a dozen supporting nations moving hundreds of thousands of troops across the English Channel and launching a combined forces operation the likes of which the world has never since seen. Over six thousand ships, two artificial harbours, 20,000 aircraft. Today, the leaders of those nations come together as their bonds of friendship crumble.

We've fought wars since. Big ones, in some cases, but we've never had a sequel to the Second World War. And in the grand scheme of things, our individual opinions are meaningless. If the leaders of our country are empowered to shatter the alliance system of the last 75 years, then they are. What we can't do is forget where we could have been, 75 years ago, and how our lives are so much better for not living those lives. I am much better off for not having to wade ashore on Juno Beach. Forostar is much better off for not trying to raise his children in occupied Holland. Collin is much better off not stranded somewhere behind the lines as a paratrooper. Perun is much better off not being under siege by shells and bombs and bullets somewhere in the Cotenin. The list goes on, and on...

What we can't do is forget the bonds of friendship that we've forged during and since that war which have empowered us to avoid these fates, and the constant fate of the Western world to be consumed by war every generation. The Pax Americana may very well be over, but that doesn't mean the peace needs to go away as well. We are very lucky to be an international group of people brought together by a common love rather than a common foe, something unheard of in generations previous. We might have disagreements over things trivial (which is the worst Iron Maiden album) and major (the future of the European Union) but that shouldn't underlie the bonds of respect and friendship. And if enough people build these bonds across national lines and cultural barriers, then perhaps, one day, we won't need to fight to argue.
 
Happy D-Day anniversary!

6th of June 1944
Allies are turning the war
Normandy state of anarchy
Overlord
Aiming for heaven though serving in hell
Victory is ours their forces will fall
Through the gates of hell
As we make our way to heaven
Through the Nazi lines
Primo victoria


 
Wonder what Stalin was thinking that day. "Finally they'll have to fight on two fronts" or "Crap, better speed up so we can get to Berlin first!"
 
Wonder what Stalin was thinking that day. "Finally they'll have to fight on two fronts" or "Crap, better speed up so we can get to Berlin first!"

Stalin had been asking for a second front in the west ever since the Americans entered the war. Technically, it was even a third front, because the Allies had been fighting in Italy since 1943. Rome had been captured two days before D-Day. Moreover, I'm sure Stalin would have been happy had he gotten some support in taking Berlin. The effort to take it was tremendous, and the battle for and in Berlin left over a million people dead.
 
BTW, @LooseCannon and I had this conversation recently, but if you think Saving Private Ryan is an accurate portrayal of D-Day, ask him how many sorties the Allies flew on D-Day, when and where the longest phase without air support during Overlord happened, how long it was, and why the film takes 2 hours to show us an Allied plane. And then ask yourself why you probably don't remember seeing a single Allied tank in the film although 200,000 Allied vehicles were deployed on the beach on 6. June alone.
 
Article from 1984 Christian Science monitor about Soviet D-day propaganda


Tomorrow, the leaders of many Western nations will gather on the shores of Normandy to observe the 40th anniversary of the Allied invasion of Nazi-occupied Europe.
But the Soviet Union, meanwhile, is engaged in a major effort to belittle the contribution of Western countries during World War II.
The campaign, involving many organs of the government-controlled press here, holds that Western powers delayed the invasion in order to allow the Germans time to inflict more damage on the Soviet Union - and only belatedly mounted the Normandy invasion to grab part of the credit for defeating Hitler.

''The outcome of the war had already been decided'' before the June 6, 1944, invasion, according to a retired Soviet general interviewed by Tass, the official government news agency. Those who see history in a different way are, according to Soviet writers, ''falsifiers'' or representatives of ''bourgeois'' mass-information media who blend ''deliberate distortions of history together with ill-intentioned lies.''
The Soviet Union has long held that the Red Army bore the brunt of World War II (which is known here as the ''Great Patriotic War'') - and that it played the major role in defeating the forces of Adolf Hitler. But lately the campaign has become louder and shriller in an obvious effort to counter the planned observances of the 40th anniversary of D-Day, the first day of the Allied assault on the European mainland.

On June 6, President Reagan will join French President Francois Mitterrand, Queen Elizabeth, and Canadian Prime Minister Pierre Trudeau at ceremonies in Caen, France, to mark the occasion.
But an official journal of the Soviet Defense Ministry has already dismissed the ceremonies as a ''pompous propaganda campaign.'' And Izvestia, the official government newspaper, recently carried an article that drew crude parallels between Hitler and President Reagan, implying that the two men share the ''distorted consciousness of a maniac killer.''
For years, the Soviet Union has complained that its contributions in World War II have been consistently understated by contemporary historians. The claim is, according to some military analysts, not without some justification.
In fact, this country suffered grievous losses during the war: Some estimates run as high as 20 million people. The losses in a single Russian city - Leningrad - were calculated at nearly 1.5 million people. That, according to one account, was at the time equal to ''the entire war losses suffered by the United States in the whole of its history.''

Wartime losses of young Russian men are still felt in this country, notably in the form of a male-female population imbalance that will persist for several more generations. The country is studded with war memorials and statues, and memories of the conflict can even now provoke emotional responses, especially for Russians.
A kerchiefed Russian babushka, for example, interviewed on a Moscow street, broke down into tears when recalling, ''I lost two brothers during the war.'' Then, she added as she hurried away, ''and now look what Reagan is doing. . . .''
That is precisely the connection the Soviet leaders would like more people to make.

During the current press campaign, the Soviet government is suggesting that today, as in 1944, the US is no real friend of Europe. The current observances of D-Day, the Defense Ministry's ''military-historical journal'' argues, are aimed at trying to ''dispel the anxiety of Europeans who, according to Washington's strategic plans, are to be the first to be burned in a 'limited' nuclear war in Europe.''

Pravda, the official Communist Party newspaper, recently carried an article by a former war correspondent identified as Daniil Kraminov. In it, he wrote that ''moral preparations'' are under way ''for a new, this time, nuclear war, which dooms Europe and the European civilization to destruction.''
That, of course, dovetails with Moscow's ongoing propaganda efforts against the stationing of new American-supplied nuclear missiles to Europe.

Another theme of the current press campaign is the suggestion that Western leaders were culpable for their encouragement of Hitler's ambitions. Kraminov, in the Pravda article, argues not only that US banks financed Hitler's wartime mobilization, but also that the US blocked early efforts by the Soviet Union to provide for a ''collective defense'' of Europe from Hitler's advance. (Notably, there is no mention in any of the articles about the Aug. 23, 1939, Soviet-German nonagression pact, which many historians view as having paved the way for the subsequent Nazi invasion of Poland.)
Kraminov further argues that ''without that aid and open encouragement from reactionary circles of the USA, Great Britain, and France . . . Hitler would not have dared and could not have possibly undertaken the military adventures which brought untold suffering, sacrifices, and destruction to Europe.''
The current press campaign also makes much of alleged ''foot- dragging'' by the Allies in opening the ''second front'' against Germany in 1944. The military-historical journal claims that ''published documents make it clear'' that the Soviet Union pushed the Allies to open up a front in Europe as early as July 1941 and that the Allies agreed to do so in 1942.

Why the delay until 1944?
In an interview with Tass, Col.-Gen. Ivan Kuzovkov, identified as a wartime commander, argues that subsequent events have made it clear that the West ''deliberately made the Soviet people shoulder the hardships of war and hoped to see the Soviet Union bled white.''
In fact, he continues, the advance of Soviet troops actually forced the Germans to divert troops away from Normandy and thus paved the way for the successful Allied landing there. But, he said, as a practical matter the Normandy invasion ''was an important but auxiliary factor'' in the war effort because the Soviet Army had already doomed Hitler to defeat.

''Why was the second front opened in 1944 and not later?'' the military-historical journal asks. Because, according to the journal, the prospect of a Soviet victory without Allied help ''frightened the monopolistic circles of the US and Britain and made them hurry up with the opening of the second front in Normandy.''
Indeed, pro-Soviet, Australian-born author James Aldridge writes in Izvestia, ''The opening of the second front was partially caused by fear. In Western political circles they understood that the Red Army in its victorious offensive was far from being exhausted and could rout the enemy on its own.''

In a similar vein, Tass rebukes Ronald Heiferman, author of ''World War II,'' for ''falsifying historical events.'' Heiferman, according to Tass, suggests that the Russians pressed the allies to open a second front in Europe to prevent the collapse of the Red Army ''under a Nazi onslaught.''
This is simply another example of how ''falsifiers are rewriting history for the sake of political objectives,'' says Tass.
 
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