Onhell said:Why can't he play like that for Montreal?
He does. It's the rest of the team that fucks.
Vancouver '10 Games
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He does. It's the rest of the team that fucks.
Onhell
Infinite Dreamer
Switzerland has to thank its lucky stars for Jonas Hiller. Like the Slovaks with Halak, Hiller is the reason the Swiss can give stronger teams a hard time, except they don't have the offense that the Slovaks have in Gaborik and Hossa. I have a feeling the Russians might crash and burn, if only because the "underdogs" play much harder to compensate their lack of talent.
Dr. Eddies Wingman
Brighter than thousand_suns
The evening starts with a Norwegian win against Denmark in curling, 6-3, and now a semi-final is seeming likely ... right now switching between the ice hockey match against Switzerland and the first round of the ski jumping!
Summary:
Yet another disappointment from the jumpers - our top men ended 11th and 12th. Hats off to Simon Ammann from Switzerland, who secured his second gold in Vancouver and his fourth Olympic gold in total!
In the men's 15+15 cross country it looked promising for a long time. Swedish Johan Olsson broke away early, and our own Petter Northug was one of four who were closing in on him about a mile from finish. Then Northug had to replace one of his poles, lost a few seconds and never managed to catch up with the other four ... crap.
As for the hockey team, we managed 4-4 against Switzerland, only to concede a cheap goal in extra time. Shortly before the goal, the referees overlooked what I thought was a clear, CLEAR holding from a Swiss player.
Now, the speed skating is a bit too late, so I'll record it and watch it during my breakfast tomorrow
Summary:
Yet another disappointment from the jumpers - our top men ended 11th and 12th. Hats off to Simon Ammann from Switzerland, who secured his second gold in Vancouver and his fourth Olympic gold in total!
In the men's 15+15 cross country it looked promising for a long time. Swedish Johan Olsson broke away early, and our own Petter Northug was one of four who were closing in on him about a mile from finish. Then Northug had to replace one of his poles, lost a few seconds and never managed to catch up with the other four ... crap.
As for the hockey team, we managed 4-4 against Switzerland, only to concede a cheap goal in extra time. Shortly before the goal, the referees overlooked what I thought was a clear, CLEAR holding from a Swiss player.
Now, the speed skating is a bit too late, so I'll record it and watch it during my breakfast tomorrow
I thought that hold was nonsense too, but honestly, even taking the Swiss to overtime the Norwegians should be very happy with that outcome.
national acrobat
Ancient Mariner
Eddies Wingman said:By the way, not often Australia win gold medals in the Winter Games! The one in women's half pipe yesterday is only their fourth one - ever! I think that's really cool
Their gold at the last Games was in the speed skating when everyone else in front crashed and the Aussie strolled, as it were, to victory from the back.
How many have GB ever won, two?
Dr. Eddies Wingman
Brighter than thousand_suns
LooseCannon said:
Yes, I'm quite pleased with how we fared in that match. We came behind repeatedly and came back each time. Now I'm curious who we'll face in the next round.
By the way, I've just watched the men's 1500m speed skating (it was in the middle of the night, so I recorded it) and Mark Tuitert won the first Dutch gold in men's 1500m since 1972. Congratulations to him (and to Foro, hehe)
I'm happy with Håvard Bøkko's bronze medal, considering how strong Tuitert showed to be.
Forostar
Ancient Mariner
I just saw it too (without knowing the news)!
Thanks!! This was truly awesome! Tuitert worked very hard for this, the last 8 years. It always has really been his distance. It has taken very long to ride the race of his life, and this was the moment. Fantastic!
Davis didn't even have Tuitert on his shortlist of concurrents, haha! And indeed, it's also special that the Netherlands win this distance on the Olympics for the first time in 38 years.
By the way, what a fantastic Games the Norwegians are having. Every day another golden medal!
Wingman, do you know which games were the best ones ever for Norway, and how many golden medals?
Thanks!! This was truly awesome! Tuitert worked very hard for this, the last 8 years. It always has really been his distance. It has taken very long to ride the race of his life, and this was the moment. Fantastic!
Davis didn't even have Tuitert on his shortlist of concurrents, haha! And indeed, it's also special that the Netherlands win this distance on the Olympics for the first time in 38 years.
By the way, what a fantastic Games the Norwegians are having. Every day another golden medal!
Wingman, do you know which games were the best ones ever for Norway, and how many golden medals?
Dr. Eddies Wingman
Brighter than thousand_suns
I think if we rank by the numer of gold medals first, it was the Nagano games in 1998. In addition to taking just as many meals in cross-country as we did on home ground in 1994, we had sjuccessful athletes in biathlon, a snowboard gold and Ådne Søndrål's triumph on 1500 m. Think we ended up with 11 gold medals.
However, I think we had more medals in total at Lillehammer in 1994.
That was from the top of my head.
FACT CHECK
Wikipedia tells me that I was wrong. The biggest number of gold medals we have ever taken was as recently as 2002, in Salt Lake City (13 gold medals, compared to 9 in Albertville, 10 in Lillehammer and 10 in Nagano). However, we took more medals in total in Lillehammer (26, compared to 25 in Nagano and 25 in Salt Lake City).
It doesn't look like we'll have as much success in Vancouver. However, the 90s was a special period in Norwegian sports generally. Even our football team was good
Of coursei it's hard to match that level of success.
However, I think we had more medals in total at Lillehammer in 1994.
That was from the top of my head.
FACT CHECK
Wikipedia tells me that I was wrong. The biggest number of gold medals we have ever taken was as recently as 2002, in Salt Lake City (13 gold medals, compared to 9 in Albertville, 10 in Lillehammer and 10 in Nagano). However, we took more medals in total in Lillehammer (26, compared to 25 in Nagano and 25 in Salt Lake City).
It doesn't look like we'll have as much success in Vancouver. However, the 90s was a special period in Norwegian sports generally. Even our football team was good
Of coursei it's hard to match that level of success.
Forostar
Ancient Mariner
Re: Vancouver '10 Games / Dutch Ice Hockey history
I just saw a very interesting item on television: an interview with two ex-internationals from the Dutch national ice hockey team!
I learnt that the best period of icehockey in the Netherlands was between 1978 and 1983.
The interview was with Jack de Heer:
Garth Dick ("Jack") de Heer (born 17 May 1953) is a former professional ice hockey player. He was a Dutch international who spent most of his career in the Eredivisie. He was born in Lethbridge.
Canadian of Dutch descent, de Heer spent his first five seasons in the Netherlands with Tilburg Trappers, averaging nearly four points a game. In 1976, he joined the Heerenveen Flyers where he spent the next four seasons. A regular Dutch national team member, highlights of his international career included being top scorer and name tournament top forward at the 1978 World Ice Hockey Championships Pool C, top scorer at the 1979 World Ice Hockey Championships Pool B, and scoring a hat-trick against Poland at the Lake Placid Olympics.
In 1980, de Heer joined EHC Arosa of the Swiss Nationalliga A league. In 1982, he returned to Dutch club hockey, rejoining the Flyers until retiring in 1984.
de Heer was a forward who shoot left.
and Jack van Wieren:
Larry Titus van Wieren (born 3 May 1951) is a former professional ice hockey player in the Netherlands. Dutch born (in Bolsward), he competed for the Dutch national team for the 1980 Winter Olympics and the 1981 World Ice Hockey Championships.
A forward and shooting right, van Wieren joined the Den Haag Wolves in 1971 and played three seasons. After a year away from Holland, he played 1975-6 with IJshockey Club Utrecht. Growing up near Edmonton van Wieren then spent the next 9 seasons with Heerenveen Flyers. He best season offensively was his first with the Flyers, 1976-7, when he scored 42 goals and 106 points in 37 games. His second best was his second last, 1983-4, when he netted 40 and collected 57 assists for 97 points in 47 games.
At the Lake Placid Olympics, van Wieren, who led the team as Captain, played all 5 games, scoring a goal and four assists. The next year saw Holland compete in Pool A at the IIHF World Championships. van Wieren collected a goal and 3 assists in 8 games.
Can you imagine?! The Netherlands Ice Hockey team have actually performed on the Olympic Games! That was in 1980, Lake Placid. I saw some cool footage, which was discussed with the interviewed couple. The team ended as 9th out of 12 countries.
The team consisted out of 13 Canadians (who of course also had a Dutch passport), 1 Czech and 6 "100%" Dutch guys.
February 12:
Netherlands 1-10 Canada
The guys said they were very nervous because they played against Canada. They knew they didn't have a serious chance to win, but the nerves made it worse.
February 14:
Netherlands 4-17 USSR
The best opponent they had. The USSR was at that moment the best team in the world and had in their ranks Vladislav Tretiak (considered by many to be the best ice hockey goaltender in the world at the time).
February 16
Japan 3-3 Netherlands
A match the Netherlands should have won. Van Wieren said he missed for open goal.
February 18
Netherlands 5-3 Poland
A good result since Poland won from Finland earlier in the tournement.
February 20
Finland 10-3 Netherlands
Again a difficult opponent.
One year later, the Netherlands also performed on the 1981 A World Championships! They ended last but scored more goals than Sweden, Canada and Czechoslovakia!
In 1979 the Netherlands won the B World Championships. The Dutch had triumphed at the C Pool of the 1978 IIHF World Championships and then promptly again won the B Pool of the 1979 IIHF event in Galati, Romania; no team in history had ever achieved this before.
I just saw a very interesting item on television: an interview with two ex-internationals from the Dutch national ice hockey team!
I learnt that the best period of icehockey in the Netherlands was between 1978 and 1983.
The interview was with Jack de Heer:
Garth Dick ("Jack") de Heer (born 17 May 1953) is a former professional ice hockey player. He was a Dutch international who spent most of his career in the Eredivisie. He was born in Lethbridge.
Canadian of Dutch descent, de Heer spent his first five seasons in the Netherlands with Tilburg Trappers, averaging nearly four points a game. In 1976, he joined the Heerenveen Flyers where he spent the next four seasons. A regular Dutch national team member, highlights of his international career included being top scorer and name tournament top forward at the 1978 World Ice Hockey Championships Pool C, top scorer at the 1979 World Ice Hockey Championships Pool B, and scoring a hat-trick against Poland at the Lake Placid Olympics.
In 1980, de Heer joined EHC Arosa of the Swiss Nationalliga A league. In 1982, he returned to Dutch club hockey, rejoining the Flyers until retiring in 1984.
de Heer was a forward who shoot left.
and Jack van Wieren:
Larry Titus van Wieren (born 3 May 1951) is a former professional ice hockey player in the Netherlands. Dutch born (in Bolsward), he competed for the Dutch national team for the 1980 Winter Olympics and the 1981 World Ice Hockey Championships.
A forward and shooting right, van Wieren joined the Den Haag Wolves in 1971 and played three seasons. After a year away from Holland, he played 1975-6 with IJshockey Club Utrecht. Growing up near Edmonton van Wieren then spent the next 9 seasons with Heerenveen Flyers. He best season offensively was his first with the Flyers, 1976-7, when he scored 42 goals and 106 points in 37 games. His second best was his second last, 1983-4, when he netted 40 and collected 57 assists for 97 points in 47 games.
At the Lake Placid Olympics, van Wieren, who led the team as Captain, played all 5 games, scoring a goal and four assists. The next year saw Holland compete in Pool A at the IIHF World Championships. van Wieren collected a goal and 3 assists in 8 games.
Can you imagine?! The Netherlands Ice Hockey team have actually performed on the Olympic Games! That was in 1980, Lake Placid. I saw some cool footage, which was discussed with the interviewed couple. The team ended as 9th out of 12 countries.
The team consisted out of 13 Canadians (who of course also had a Dutch passport), 1 Czech and 6 "100%" Dutch guys.
February 12:
Netherlands 1-10 Canada
The guys said they were very nervous because they played against Canada. They knew they didn't have a serious chance to win, but the nerves made it worse.
February 14:
Netherlands 4-17 USSR
The best opponent they had. The USSR was at that moment the best team in the world and had in their ranks Vladislav Tretiak (considered by many to be the best ice hockey goaltender in the world at the time).
February 16
Japan 3-3 Netherlands
A match the Netherlands should have won. Van Wieren said he missed for open goal.
February 18
Netherlands 5-3 Poland
A good result since Poland won from Finland earlier in the tournement.
February 20
Finland 10-3 Netherlands
Again a difficult opponent.
One year later, the Netherlands also performed on the 1981 A World Championships! They ended last but scored more goals than Sweden, Canada and Czechoslovakia!
In 1979 the Netherlands won the B World Championships. The Dutch had triumphed at the C Pool of the 1978 IIHF World Championships and then promptly again won the B Pool of the 1979 IIHF event in Galati, Romania; no team in history had ever achieved this before.
I wish the Dutch had a stronger ice hockey tradition. I'd love to see the orange jerseys flash on the ice.
Dr. Eddies Wingman
Brighter than thousand_suns
Forostar said:
Actually the matches corresponding to the three latest Olympic finals
All are important regarding who will win their respective groups. Unfortunately the last two are in the middle of the night, and I've got to go to work tomorrow 
Tonight we have the mass starts in biathlon (15 km for men, just started, and 12.5 km for women, later tonight) where I have high hopes for the Norwegian combatants. In addition we have the men's alpine combination (downhill + slalom) where Aksel Lund Svindal did very well in the downhill part and could be in for another top-three finish ... exciting!
The Russia-Czech game will be very interesting. If the Czechs win the Russians finish 3rd and will be relegated to face a tough opponent in the elimination round, such as the winner of Sweden-Finland. I will be watching carefully.
Dr. Eddies Wingman
Brighter than thousand_suns
I think I'll say good night after Russia vs Czech Republic, which could be an interesting game.
I wonder what our biathletes were aiming for during the mass start? Definitely not the targets. 13 misses between the three guys. Were they shooting moose to have for a feast after the last event?
I wonder what our biathletes were aiming for during the mass start? Definitely not the targets. 13 misses between the three guys. Were they shooting moose to have for a feast after the last event?
Dr. Eddies Wingman
Brighter than thousand_suns
Yes, and of course the 4*7.5 relay, where he obviously will take one of the legs for Norway.
PS: Dammit, there went Aksel Lund Svindal's medal chances. They were defenestrated as Svindal missed a gate only 10 seconds before finish ... 2 of 3 out of the combination, and this day doesn't look good at all for Norway. Well, at least Bøkko's bronze was today, CET.
PS: Dammit, there went Aksel Lund Svindal's medal chances. They were defenestrated as Svindal missed a gate only 10 seconds before finish ... 2 of 3 out of the combination, and this day doesn't look good at all for Norway. Well, at least Bøkko's bronze was today, CET.